"Fed Up" on Amazon Prime

(Scott) #23

I say go back to the days where the prisons grew their own natural food on site, win win!

(Jennibc) #24

We were not as metabolically deranged as teens today. Diabetes and morbid obesity is happening sooner for them than it did for our generation. It may very well be what their mothers were eating while pregnant, it might be the dietary standards changing in the 80s. Watch the film and see how much sugar consumption has gone up since the 80s because they took the fat out of all that processed food. Also we need fat for optimal brain functioning.

(Jennibc) #25

Is fluffernutter that horrible marshmellow fluff mixed with peanut butter?

(charlie3) #27

May be the most noticable change when I mostly eliminated carbs was feeling calmer day to day. There didn’t used to be mass shooters. Something changed to create them. I’ve wondered why there is no discussion about a possible mechanism, a cause.

It would not be a hard to change the lunch food in a school or jail and see if there is a change behavior. If yes that would be an important finding.

What if diet is contributing to the mass shooter phenominom by magnifying underlying psychiatric conditions. Has the effect of diet been studied in psychiatric hospitals?

(Jane) #28

I live in the middle of nowhere so I depend heavily on Amazon. I started buying from them in 1995 when all they sold were books and records and the Internet was a really small place. There was no twitter or facebook and forum boards were just getting started.

As for Walmart - I avoided them in Houston but really have so few choices where I live now.

(Marianne) #29

I work for a school district whose districtwide school nutritionist is well renowned throughout the community and state for his/her innovative, healthy school breakfast and lunch program. What a crock of shit. You wouldn’t believe the junk they serve to kids - there is nothing healthy about it. Pancakes with syrup, french toast, spaghetti, mac and cheese, mystery meat pressed into a form to look like a chicken nugget, meatball or patty, served on “wheat” bread, etc.

#30

I just tried to watch this. Only got halfway through and had to turn it off. Too depressing. Plus, the pics of all the frankenfoods out there was making me nauseous. Plus, I was starting to get really pissed at seeing how the food industries are running the government. I’m glad they made the documentary, I just couldn’t watch it.

(Jennibc) #31

Yes, it was a bit demoralizing. It seemed like they were really pushing limits on advertising especially to children. And those kinds of regulations aren’t likely so that troubled me. But what I found especially demoralizing was that parents felt powerless and/or didn’t step up to intervene. Parents, you are NOT powerless, you choose what comes into the house.

But the documentary did rightfully blame sugar!

#32

Wish I didn’t see Katie Couric had something to do with it. I don’t doubt for one second that these kids are fed garbage, having a kid entering school this coming September I think about it a lot. But Couric has proven she’ll lie / edit and twist things in her “documentarys” to get whatever result she wants. I’d LIKE to think being a kids focused thing she wouldn’t, but I dunno.

(Jennibc) #33

There was nothing in it that was inaccurate. But again, it was short on realistic solutions.

(Alec) #34

Jen
Is there any published data on that do you know? Not being in the US I don’t really hear about this much. Is the motivation to help the poor farmers out and keep them from going bust and then reducing the SAD food supply?

(Jennibc) #35

Check out this website - they compile the information https://farm.ewg.org/

#36

Not a fan of capitalism I guess… I’d LOVE to hate Amazon, but they’re the reason people save INSANE amounts of money. There are thousands of businesses that have a national presence because of them, and very realistically places that could never get up and running if it wasn’t for Amazon’s fulfillment services they provide to sellers. Them starting the online grocery and then purchasing Whole Foods is why Walmart stepped up their game and started selling massive amounts of Organic foods and fancied up a lot of their stores which gave a lot of people with less in the wallet the ability to buy higher quality stuff than they could afford otherwise. They’re the reason all the order online and delivery or pick up at store went super mainstream. Same effect as Walmart in a town, even if you hate Walmart, if you have one close you’re playing slightly lower prices everywhere else because of it. Let the free market be free, and it works for everybody. Start forcing it’s hand and their’s only one winning side.

(GINA ) #37

Farm subsidies started as a way to guarantee national food security after WWII. We needed to have a steady domestic food supply so as not to wind up like many other nations during the war. Grains store, meat and vegetables don’t.

There is a documentary called King Corn that explains it pretty well.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #38

I remember being in 6th grade and buying lunch at school and getting the same amount of food a 1st grader would get…

#39

Although I don’t believe in the mythical story of free gov’t healthcare (because it doesn’t exist) I’ll agree that if the gov’t WAS more financially responsible for people’s health the rules on what’s “healthy” would change a lot faster. Sadly, it would take them starting to pay attention THEN a ton of people dying before anything would be done about it. I think the ins companies will be the push on this long before the feds wake up. I did my yearly health ins check to get a “healthy” discount on the rates for the year and got the “WOW, you’re cholesterol is really low!, you must not eat fat at all!” I usually say nothing at that point, this year I said, probably because I eat mostly fat. She paused and went keto? I said yup, she laughed and said ya, seems everybody doing that thing has amazing blood results. She said the ins companies are picking up on it and if it’s making people healthier (I heard saving them money) they were all for it. Works for me! That could have a huge impact on things they’ll possibly pay for, things they’ll stop crying about etc.

(Jennibc) #40

I agree on the free market part, but unfortunately if one business is getting tax breaks and tax credits and others are not, that’s not capitalism, that’s crony capitalism. And it harms everyone because the well connected get government to do their bidding and that involves putting others out of business.

(Jennibc) #41

Yes, but like many programs, it has evolved to benefit the well connected - read large food manufactures and very few if any family farms benefit. It’s a joke of a program now that does nothing but enrich huge companies and create perverse incentives that have led to soy and corn being in everything.

(Brian) #42

I seem to remember reading of a few places like that. I like it. Allowing a prisoner to do real work in order to enjoy the real reward of some really good food that they grew themselves might be some really good rehab for some. I thought it was someplace in Louisiana that had a program like that set up where the prisoners were able to eat pretty well. I think they had animals that they tended as well as gardens. They had skin in the game. They had a reason to get up in the morning. They had goals. And they developed some skills that could serve them after getting out, too.

For people willing to work both hard and smart, there is the potential for a decent living in small scale agriculture. And pretty much no one would care about a criminal record.

Definitely some win-win potential, whether the prisoner is being “punished” or being “rehabilitated”.

#43

That’s fine, but the reality is, the tax breaks companies get are voted on and approved by the people we elect. How well did the anti business tax threats work out for NY when Amazon told them to screw? How many jobs were lost because they were anti business? Now flip that around, how many states that are pro business get huge corporations to move in and thanks to thousands of jobs created put the food on the table for countless families? When you elect people that hate business they only hurt the people they claim to want to help. I’m not for cronyism at all, but not all businesses are equal, some deserve tax breaks, some don’t. I’m 100% for a flat tax as that is fair (assuming the rate is fair) because it doesn’t play favorites, but that will never be approved because the idiots in power are more about pandering to one side of the aisle instead of trying to help us all. I agree on not having the governments bidding putting others out of business, but the mechanism in place they do it with is the regulations that are counter to the free market to begin with.