Fat Adaption & Ketosis + carb loading and exercise


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #1

What happens when you are entirely fat adapted and then enjoy a large carb-laden meal? What is the process inside your body, what happens to the glucose?
Forgive me if this question is ignorant, I am still trying to understand Ketosis & Fat Adaption.

Basically, I am wondering, if I can be very strict keto, continue exercising, and then once every now and then (once a month, tops) have a big delicious burger with the bun, with approx 80g of carbs, what would happen?

Any insight would be great, and appreciated!


(Ron) #2

Read this -


(Ken) #3

Here’s what happens. You eat your meal. It contains some limited carbs. Your body switches to producing insulin instead of glucagon. Lipolysis temporarily halts. The insulin spike lasts a couple of hours, your body preferentially burns the carbs. Such a small amount of carbs stays in the digestive system to be burned rather than being converted to glycogen. After these few hours the body restarts glucagon production and you go back in to lipolysis. You may not be showing much ketones at this time because both protein gluconeogenesis and glycogenolysis may be occurring at this time. The latter requires glucagon secretion, so you’re still lipolytic while showing little or no ketones. This is why focusing on ketones is often “Nutty Keto” rather than understanding the overall state of Lipolysis.

Overall the article cited has some good points as far as what happens when you consume carbs. But, IMO, is totally incorrect in it’s recommendations as far as a chronic level of Carb intake over time. Some people may be able to avoid glycogen overcompensation while doing 80/20 or even 90/10, but the potential for slow lipogenic readaptation is still there. So, my recommendations for Carb consumption on a daily basis is cyclic rather than chronic, in order to allow glycogen levels to drop, lipolysis to be reestablished, and prevention of lipogenic readaptation to occur.

BTW, I had half a loaf of garlic bread yesterday. It was delicious. I’m ZC today.


(Rob) #4

Great Info … thanks!


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #5

Thank you so much for explaining :slight_smile:


(Joe) #6

Wow great response. I do think we get carb crazy like we used to get fat crazy. I remember seeing Fung speak about a vacation where he ate whatever he wanted ice cream ECT. I think it will be partially a psychological factor. If you can handle the spike in hunger and the emotions the food enhances then you will probably be able to do it well. If your body and mind betray you it will be harder.