Ex Vegan drama online

(Marius the butter craving dude) #1

Quite a lot ex vegans lately. A lot of vegans bashing on the ex vegan. It feels like the movement is in crisis at least in it’s YT presence.
I wonder if the movement will have a downfall. Any thoughts ?:slight_smile:

(Jane) #2

How someone chooses to eat is nobody’s business but their own.

When they try to tell me how I should eat is when I have a problem.

Vegans as a whole seem to have issues respecting those boundaries.

And as a group are the sickliest people I’ve ever seen. But their choice.

Glad to see some have seen the light.

(Bunny) #3

Hmmm?

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(Stickin' with mammoth) #4

Exactly. Although I will confess a certain satisfaction watching the strident ones eat their words. Goodness knows they having been eating much else.

(Tamela Robinette) #5

I have a niece that has been a strict vegan for 10 years or so, attended protests at meat processing plants, tried to convert family members, etc. She would lose her mind if she knew I’ve gone almost 95% carnivore. When I went grocery shopping yesterday my cart was full of meat and I only bought some blackberries and raspberries as a treat. My sister (her mother) told me she has been giving her 18 month old eggs! He is a miracle baby that her and her husband tried to have for 12 years. I was shocked because she is the type of vegan that shares the videos of the baby chicks being ground up on Facebook. I guess even deep down maternal instinct tells her that veganism isn’t what is best her her miracle baby :smirk:

(Marius the butter craving dude) #6

Lol… I am happy for the baby
Vegans reach the conclusion that meat was bad because they eliminated it and they felt good (yet they also eliminated junk food and have become health conscience). Yet when things go bad they reject to take into consideration meat.
Then there is the moral side… For me there is no moral problem with eating animals, yet I get the force of the argument. But when you can not reconciliate that with your health than you must choose.

(Tamela Robinette) #7

The thing is they eat A LOT of processed foods! Fake bacon, fake sausage, vegan butter, yada yada yada. Why not eat whole foods? What’s the point? You’re fueling your baby with God knows what is in fake bacon? She is a staunch animal supporter and I get that part of it but she struggles with some health issues as a result of her veganism, one being at 29 years old every time she goes to the dentist she has multiple cavities and has had to have multiple root canals! She brushes 3 times a day! She also complains constantly that she’s fatigued even though she supplements vitamin b12 and such. I just don’t see it as the ultimate nutritional option.

(Jane) #8

My husband and I have not had a single cavity since going keto 16 months ago. His teeth were in bad shape from cancer radiation treatments years ago for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma tumor in his sinus cavity, so doubly exciting for him.

(Tamela Robinette) #9

Janie that is awesome!

(Stickin' with mammoth) #10

Me, too. Three years, but things got extra good after going carnivore.

(charlie3) #11

The CDC reports that half of adult Americans either have T2D or will develop it if they don’t make changes. The obesity rate is way way up which is apparent in daily life. These are now epidemic but they didn’t used to be. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out it might have something to do with diet. Then, thanks mostly to youtube, the people researching the likely mechanisms of these problems are front and center. We can listen to them and to the detractors. Guess who is making more sense If that wasn’t enough, ultra low carb turns out to be a hugely successful way to reduce body fat. There are more and more living examples on the street every day (including me).

In the mean time vegans are a public relations nightmare, their own worst enemies. They are cultish, deceptive, pushy and intolerant (I’m being redundant). A lot of the don’t look in the best of health. I suspect it’s possible to be vegan and have optimal health but I bet it takes more knowledge and discipline than most of them can muster.

Just to rub salt in the wound, there may be a carnivore craze in the making.

(Stickin' with mammoth) #12

(Chews steak and nods.)

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #13

I have been a vegetarian many times throughout my life. I also tried Atkins to lose weight and feel better and eventually ended up waffling back and forth for many years. I’m at the point in my life where I don’t have the luxury of eating based on my youthful ideals anymore. I’m fighting an incurable cancer and have to feed my body what it needs.

I feel a bit sorry for the gal. She tried a thing and she is changing her mind. Was creating a youtube channel about it the smartest move? Probably not but that’s what people do now so she’ll hopefully learn a lesson about how she may not feel the same way she feels today in three years.