Effect of Supplements on blood tests, good data

(John S) #1

Two different blood tests about 5 weeks apart. My Dr wanted me on a statin and gave me a prescription. I did not take the statin, I added a bunch of supplements though. He also gave me a prescription of Vascepa, which as best I can tell is a prescription fish oil that I used to replace my daily fish oil pill from Costco Kirkland brand fish oil. I also increased my Red Yeast Rice Extract from one pill to 4, which is what the label suggests.

The big changes in my labs seen below is overall cholesterol went down, LDL went way down, my HDL went down unfortunately but it is usually low, LDL-P went down about 38%, small LDL-P went way down 57% and Remnant Cholesterol stayed the same at 14.

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The # of supplements I take is, a lot. Next experiment is to reduce one of the supplements to see what happens. I would like to reduce the amount of supplements I am taking. Here is a list of what I took, I could provide dosages if requested but I did not want to overwhelm anyone with more data.

IP-6 & Inositol
Milk Thistle
Eleuthero drops
Turmeric Curcumin with Bioperine (1950mg)
DHEA with DMSO Liquid
Citris Bergamot
Nutritional yeast
Probiotic 10
Vitamin E & Tocotrienol Complex
K2+D3
Qunol CoQ10
Aspirin, 81mg
Niacin
DHEA tablet
Berberine
Magnesium (100% chelated)
Phosphatidyly Serine
Vascepa Fish oil (prescription)
KSM-66 Ashwagandha (600mg) with Bioperine
Red Yeast Rice Extract
Beta-Sitosterol Plant Steroids
Ocuvite
Prostate Plus Health Complex
Red Yeast Rice Exrtact
Alpha-GPC Choline Alfoscerate

Test Name 24-Sep-18 9-Nov-18 Units Reference Range
CHOLESTEROL 219 155 mg/dL 0-200
TRIGLYCERIDES 69 70 mg/dL <199
HDL CHOLESTEROL 45 36 mg/dL >40
LDL, CALCULATED 160 105 mg/dl <159
LDL-P 2395 1495 nmol/L <1,000
HDL-P 25 24.7 umol/L >=30.5
Small LDL-P 1268 549 nmol/L <=527
LDL Size 20.6 21.1 nmol/L >=20.5nm
Friedewald LDL-C 160 105
Iranian LDL-C 141 96
Total/HDL Ratio 4.87 4.31 mg/dL
TG/HDL mg/dL 1.53 1.94 mg/dL
TG/HDL mmol/L 0.67 0.85 mmol/L
Remnant Cholesterol 14 14 mg/dL below 23 ok
Remnant Cholesterol
to HDL 0.310 0.390 mmol/L

(John S) #2

The blood results were not formatted well, I hope this looks better:

> Test Name		24-Sep-18	9-Nov-18	Units		Reference Range
> CHOLESTEROL		219		155		mg/dL		0-200
> TRIGLYCERIDES		69		70		mg/dL		<199
> HDL CHOLESTEROL	45		36		mg/dL		>40
> LDL, CALCULATED	160		105		mg/dl		<159
> LDL-P			    2395    1495    nmol/L		<1,000
> HDL-P			      25	24.7	umol/L		>=30.5
> Small LDL-P		1268	549		nmol/L		<=527
> LDL Size		    20.6	21.1	nmol/L		>=20.5nm
> Friedewald LDL-C	160	    105		
> Iranian LDL-C		141		96		
> Total/HDL Ratio	4.87	4.31	mg/dL	
> TG/HDL mg/dL 	   	1.53	1.94	mg/dL	
> TG/HDL mmol/L	    0.67	0.85	mmol/L	
> Remnant Cholesterol 14	14		mg/dL		below 23 ok
> Remnant Cholesterol 
>    to HDL		     0.310	0.390	mmol/L
(Duncan Kerridge) #3

Can I ask why you taking so many supplements? What’s the end goal? They must be costing you a fortune!

(John S) #4

Well, I was trying to lower LDL, raise HDL and protect my liver while taking all these supplements. I am also trying to lower cortisol (not sure how to measure) so I can sleep better and get rid of the last little bit of fat around my middle. I am 6’3" and 202 lbs so pretty good but I want to increase lean mass and keep losing fat. I am at 19.3% body fat measured by the bath tub (hydrostatic) method.

Not too expensive, I need to add it up to see what the daily cost is, but I don’t drink or smoke so my vice is obsessing over my health. :slight_smile:

#5

Well, I’m only about half as bad as you. Lol.

I only take about 8 supplements. Some of those will not be renewed when they’re gone.

Sometimes I take so many I can’t tell which ones are doing me any good. While water-fasting I limit them to my prescribed heart meds + magnesium, krill oil and a nerve support formula which is basically fat solvable B vitamins.

I’m getting a little leery of all these.

(Troy) #6

Wow😳

I know for organization and storage
And to remember what to take
Many have or use a daily pill box

You may need a deep sea fish tackle box, w 4-8 stackable trays🤣

Thank Goodness for keto clarity and no brain fog
Nsv…so you are not mixing up daily usage :smile:

(Running from stupidity) #7

I do this even if it’s one tablet. #ADHDbrain

(Troy) #8

:rofl:
No pill cutter gadget for you #keepjuicesafe

(Running from stupidity) #9

I have a good knife :slight_smile: