Eating Meat Is the Norm Almost Everywhere
of course, but ya know I am not sure what decade kinda that meat became evil? Gonna kill us all 
It is the base of life on the planet for eons yet it went under severe attack. Well I guess that is the way of this world, got more evil as big agri promoted their health saving buy me advertising? Meat isn’t going anywhere thank goodness, too many smart people out there 
And if someone isn’t smart, they still like meat.
I think about things sometimes…And well, I am doomed without meat. I could survive but I need extreme low-carb and that’s basically impossible without a significant amount of meat. I am the only descendant of my maternal grandparents and has no kids at 44, let me not sacrifice a big part of my (not so good) life and health because others multiply too much. The population of my country just gets smaller anyway, we do it good. I am against bad food industry practices but I can’t do more now without sacrificing too much. I can give up a lot of comfort but I need meat at this point.
And eating carby plants doesn’t even lower my other food consumption, in the contrary…
Oh the article talks about meat substitutes… If I had to eat a plant-based diet, I still would avoid those, they are probably horrible (never had money to waste to try them, I could buy pork with that money, much more than those sad things others tend to avoid as well… I tried some older, maybe worse meat substitutes that had about nothing to do with meat, I mean, drastically different macros, it’s like making roast from a watermelon and some vegans do that… well, red - red, juicy - juicy, I guess).
But I would try meat grown artificially (I am a curious one). And I would eat cheap crickets. I just need proper nutrition and tastiness and variety, I am not into meat that much (I enjoy my meat but I could live without it for so long, it wasn’t hard at all), I just don’t see any other alternatives. As far as I know, the fake meats are bad, just like the fake cheeses and many vegans hate them. There are perfectly fine plants to eat normally (if one handles them well, of course. all carby plants so basically all plants aren’t fine for me in bigger amounts regularly but that’s me. and some people with some ideals are willing to suffer more than me anyway) and making plants into some meaty shape just cause disappointment if one expect it to be similar to the “original”.
(I extrapolated. Every time someone said something is just like something else, it was practically never true, very very far from it. Ketoers do that too. I believe they feel so, good for them, to me, nothing else is even remotely similar to meat, potatoes, cheese, pasta, rice, egg etc. Nothing. Not at all. Especially for the items with a very unique taste like meat, potato, cheese and egg. Or sour cream.)
Sorry I got carried away.
I am against needless meat consumption though. All needless consumption. I was a vegetarian for long and then almost never ate meat for decades but I wasted a lot because I ate too much carbs and had to eat way more than I needed to be satiated all day. That’s wasteful and many people overeat… My meat may require more resources but I need that. A mordibly obese people eating stuff and just making them worse waste stuff, energy, water, researches, even use more package and hurt the planet while hurting themselves. People who throw away food do a similar thing except they usually don’t hurt themselves (they do if they throw away the food and starve instead).
Those are mentioned sometimes but it’s usually about meat or not. And it’s not the same to eat fruit from my garden and fruit travelled here from super far away…
If we think about the planet. Sometimes vegans (and not only vegans) think it’s all about meat consumption and it’s not. It even matters how the animals lived, they usually eat plants grown for them as far as I know but not always, of course. And it can make a huge difference.
so true!!The religious belief started in the second half of the19th century, with Ellen White, prophetess of the Seventh-Day Adventists. White believed that eating meat stimulated “fleshly lusts,” especially in men. As a young teenager, John Harvey Kellogg proof-read and typeset many of her writings for publication and carried these beliefs into medical school with him. He founded a sanitarium where his beliefs were implemented and also the Kellogg Cereal Company to promote his line of “anaphrodisiac” vegetarian foods.
The scientific belief started after World War II, as the rise in heart attacks had people scrambling for an explanation and means of preventing them. The American Heart Association began promoting Crisco oil after a large donation from the company in 1948 put the organisation “on the map” (as the AHA’s official history puts it). There was evidence from the early 20th century that cholesterol was damaging to rabbits that were force-fed it (they had to be force fed, since they are obligate herbivores and cholesterol is found only in meat), and people latched on to it as a possible cause of coronary heart disease in humans. Ancel Keys showed that belief to be wrong; instead, he blamed saturated fat from meat in the diet. Even before George McGovern got the U.S. government to start issuing dietary advice, organisations such as the AHA were already advising a “prudent diet” low in animal fat (and, of course, promoting the use of vegetable oil in its place). If I remember correctly, Senator McGovern was a friend of Dr. Pritikin’s and his chief of staff, Mark Hegsted, was a vegetarian who later became responsible for implementing the dietary guidelines at the USDA.
Funny how this persists when there’s so much plant-based-everything propaganda in the media. It’s almost as though people see through that or something 