Does dairy inhibit the health benefits of antioxidant foods?


(Joey) #21

Indeed!

We currently have “The Science” put forth as the unadulterated truth… which may (or may not) have anything to do with science.

As for the media, as has been said many times before, it’s called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done.


#22

The answer to this question is not a simple yes or no. The relationship between dairy and the health benefits of antioxidant foods is complex and depends on a variety of factors.


#23

Hi, shapinggonegirl, I’m not entirely convinced coffee has that many benefits, other than providing a cognitive boost, there and then. As to the antioxidants I’m not sure, I’ve also been drinking green tea for years, but both my coffee and green tea is the cheap supermarked variety. I was also eating dark chocolate for many years, and goji berries. Didn’t seem to help with my chronic inflammation, but then I was also eating a lot of carbs. Perhaps on a ketogenic WOE antioxidants become less important, who knows. But I have decided to try an experiment of eating foods separately to see if that will make any difference to my energy levels. However, it isn’t just dairy that’s an issue. Eggs apparently inhibit iron consumption, so now I eat those separately as well. I used to fry them with both my bacon and my beef. Broccoli apparently blocks absorption as well of nutrients from meats. When you dip into that research of anti-nutrients it’s enough to boggle anyone’s mind, but it may be we still get most of those nutrients, and that these concerns are exaggerated. If anti-nutrients were such a big deal, I’m sure we would have seen a lot more people ill and wasting away from malnutrition.


#24

IDK what eggs do but I eat them for each and every meal since ages without a problem… So I don’t think they do much bad to my iron. I would have noticed that.


#25

Hi Shinita, I do wonder how much need there is for any concern with the anti-nutrients, if any. Whenever I’ve eaten my plate of beef and eggs I certainly feel it’s nutritious. And eggs with bacon is a classic. I usually have a generous dollop of butter on my meat, fowl or fish, and don’t feel including that bit of dairy makes the meal less nutritious. What I have found though, is if I don’t wait an hour to eat after coffee or tea, I gradually become more tired. I used to be pretty terrible at this, but now I always put my timer on, if I’ve had tea or coffee, and wait at least one hour. I did read some articles stating anti-nutrients matter more on a so-called unbalanced diet (as opposed to SAD, I guess they were thinking), but I don’t support that idea. What I’ve discovered through keto is that I’ve become more aware of what food does, how it makes me feel, good and bad. As the other day I had a single strawberry, it was far too sweet and I didn’t like how it made my body feel. My sense of smell appears stronger, my tastebuds sharper. But anyway, back to anti-nutrients, as the research is so conflicting, and people having been enjoying milk/cream in their coffee and butter on their steak through the ages, I will continue to enjoy both butter and cheese with my meats. It all comes to a point if you’re too diligent that you begin to lose heart and ethusiasm for the food and you begin to doubt if anything you put into your mouth is healthy. Now that’s a rabbit hole I’m not diving into, in the end of the day we eat as healthy as we can, give our bodies some exercise, try to reduce stress, and what else can we do? Life is too short to persue the perfect nutrients in the hope of achieving perfect health.