Do We Have A Name For Us?

[Just_Juju]

[clackley]

From Hyperlipid … “I resist insulin”.

[MeganNZ]

Oh boy @Just_Juju. A good example of why I tend to have very little to do with people lol.

[Shinita]

I always saw “ketoer” when I have started so I use that.

But there is no labvel for me. I always was a bit out from all woe, sooner or later. Okay, I was truly a high-carber and for 8 years, a vegetarian (I still avoided meat for decades more especially on keto but I don’t call myself a vegetarian until at least a year passed without meat. my diet was vegetarian for short times - for months - though). When I almost was a paleoer, I still kept my precious green peas (I lost them somewhere on keto). Keto bans nothing so I actually was a ketoer for 7 weeks (with lots of carbs but I was in ketosis, apparently). But if one considers keto <20g carbs, I was out for them. And while I did 2 carnivore weeks, my chosen woe is carnivore-ish (it’s my personal definition, very little plant matter and very restricted, almost only just a tiny bit of raw veg as extra).
So I don’t need a label for myself, that wouldn’t really help anyway. Unless I explain how I eat (it’s impossible as I go off all the time, usually not too far though), people won’t have much idea. If they have the same definition for keto (it’s about ketosis), at least they will know the ketosis part.
Low-carber isn’t good as in some places they think it’s <20g carbs and in another, 100-160g. For me personally, it’s 45-80g if I talk about myself. Below 45g it’s keto and if I don’t eat non-animal stuff, it’s carnivore. I never grasped the meaning of “ketovore”, I don’t use that but it’s some carni adjacent woe, it seems.
Of course, “ketoer” says very little about someone’s eating style… I can be mostly sure it means they eat little carbs and hopefully not super low fat but that’s it. I don’t know if they eat meat, I don’t know if they eat healthy, it’s zero fiber or low or normal or high, lots of salads or no plants (or much carbs from vegs but no salads or green leaves as I did)…

I think if I must say something, I say I am a low-carber and I mean it as “<80g carbs on most days” in that case. But if I nearly always did keto but rarely carni, I would say I am a ketoer. If I consider my chosen woe, I do on/off carnivore-ish (no noun for that) but I wouldn’t say it in summer when I eat fruit all the time so the on part is seriously lacking… It’s surprisingly hard to resist my own extremely delicious fruits when the hot weather melts my brain I am trying (sometimes), at least even if I fail.

They made a blanket rule that Ketovore was no more than 5-10g carbs per day.

But my true carnivore (I almost never do that but it’s possible) has up to 40g… (To me, carnivore is animal products only. And possibly tea, coffee and spices but that doesn’t add much carbs.)

Like even a tablespoon of chopped tomatoes on top of chicken was considered a condiment to them

I can understand that. It’s not a condiment to me but there is some similarity, some plant matter with carbs. Similar amount of carbs only if the condiment is sugary so yep, not the same. But I kinda understand where they are come from even if I am different. And I do say things like “I use it as spice” meaning I only use a little.

I don’t know this ketovore definition but I never saw a carb number attached to it. Just that ketovore is mostly carnivore with some (not necessarily tiny) amount of plants on top, usually vegs I suppose…? But no carbier things. So if you eat a small apple and the carb intake is still keto, it’s keto. But a big very low-carb salad with your meat is ketovore. Something like this?

If ketovore was 5-10g carbs… They didn’t allow much from the carbier animal items? Or it’s fine and dandy as long as no plants were added? 10g isn’t so hard to go over on carnivore even without dairy, for me… But dairy is my main culprit for sure and some groups don’t consider it carnivore.

I really dislike intolerant ones on their high horses when it’s about a woe… Thankfully I never met such ones. But I am aware many people loses their heads when it comes to diet if they have a very strong opinion due to their own experiences.

I usually say I avoid carbs.

It works better for people who do that. Normal people don’t even know what are carbs. They don’t even consider a bunch of banana carbs… And I saw worse.
If you say it to me (and I don’t know you at all), I am still unsure as people tend to forget about all the zillion keto carbs too. Sometimes they only forget about all the carnivore sugars… I probably forget about the not net carbs as I don’t care about those but I actually know erythritol is 100% carbs…

People who are vegetarian are not Tofu and carnivores are not a tenderloin. That is what they consume

Tofu isn’t food if you ask me and I thought the same as a vegetarian. Just had to say this My dislike towards tofu has a huge depth. Stupid thing keeps me from eating miso soup ever and that is so tasty (carby too so I wouldn’t do it often) but it needs the stupid, tasteless, sometimes even unpleasant tofu in it for some reason. Oh well. I will survive.

Vegetarian is the label where I have the least idea about someone’s diet. If I am sure the one in question has an idea about what meat and animal body is (oh not everyone do among even self-proclaimed vegans), I know they don’t eat meat (animal bodies). And that’s about it. They may eat 100+ g animal protein a day and they may avoid it like the plague. They may eat 10g, 50g or 300g fat a day. They may eat perfectly normal food or some weird things too. They may love green salads and they may avoid them at all cost. They may do keto or super high-carb. Their diet may be very healthy or very unhealthy and anything in-between.

But I better stop now.

[Saphire]

https://miko-brand.com/keto-friendly-miso-recipe-ideas#:~:text=Yes%2C%20miso%20soup%20is%20keto,onions%20to%20your%20miso%20soup.

Stupid thing keeps me from eating miso soup ever and that is so tasty (carby too so I wouldn’t do it often) but it needs the stupid, tasteless, sometimes even unpleasant tofu in it for some reason

I like Miso, I do eat it on Keto. I do not consider it high carb.

Other than in soup I actually really like Tofu. My family hates it and I am not sure why (they eat better quality SAD). I do not make it often because it is a lot of work to make well. You have to weigh it down to get all the water out (and buy the extra firm or super firm), then you have to marinate it. Then cook it.

I like it because it has a carb like texture to me and it takes on the flavors of the other ingredients

[Shinita]

Oh it’s not the carbs, it’s just the tofu. While miso paste is carby, a small bowl of miso doesn’t have very much of it.

it takes on the flavors of the other ingredients

I call that “tasteless”, I dislike all things like that. I want every bit of my food being tasty, usually Meanwhile my SO happily eats eggless pasta, it’s so horrible to me as it’s not delicious alone… At all. In the contrary as he eats the wholemeal one, yuck! I eat the perfected pasta: only eggs Each to their own. I didn’t hate Tofu in the past but I had to choose the one the least unpleasant texture. It still was tasteless except the smoky flavor… But with miso, it was borderline edible.
We all have our tastes. Most tofu has a texture I don’t care for and I ate tofu a few times in my life, I don’t put effort into finding the best, still tasteless one… I eat other things.

I don’t marinate anything. I want my food being tasty to begin with I like cooking but there is a limit for me and marinade can’t make it, never felt the need for it.

I do like seitan though (not very much, it’s more like my number one very low-carb protein option for the times when I can’t stomach much meat). While gluten isn’t tasty either, the texture is fun (and very different depending how I cook it) and I just add a ton of spice and condiment - and lard, that’s important.