Do calories count?


#1

Hello hello,
So I have been on this diet on and off for about two months and have lost 12 pounds eating under 20 carbs on most days and about 1000 calories.

I just recently found the diet doctor website and was planning on starting their generic meal plan until I saw that most of their foods is 700+ calories.

Because of this I wanted y’all’s insight on if calories count or if only carbs count. I know a lot of people say not to count calories in the beggining, only macros but I find that they go hand in hand.

I am 5’6 and 147 pounds for reference.

One last thing, is it better to keep carbs at 5% or under 20 grams?
Because I eat and keep them under 20 g but that ends up being more than 10% sometimes.

Any and all opinions apreciated


(Amy Ramadan) #2

I personally don’t count calories. Aim to be at 20grams of net carbs or less per day. The goal is to train your body to burn fat instead of carbohydrates. Does that make sense? Hope this helps at least somewhat!! :wink:


(TJ Borden) #3

THIS!!!


(Wendy) #4

I don’t count calories. 20 grams is much more concrete than percents as it’s always the same, percentages change so the more you eat…
Have you seen the video on calories that had been posted recently here? I’ll see if I can find it. It was such a great explaination of what calories really are and how they are not a measurement that translates to weight gain or loss.


(Allie) #5

I don’t count anything at all as I’ve been keto over three years so just know what works for me.
However when I first started out I did count everything religiously and trying to survive on just 1000 calories a day would’ve likely destroyed me, the bare minimum I needed to feel well was 1600 and I’m shorter than you.


(Wendy) #6

Hopefully it linked the right one. :blush:
Nope next one​:point_down::upside_down_face:


(Wendy) #7


Hopefully I got it this time.


(less is more, more or less) #8

Calories don’t matter, but quantity of food does. Enjoy saturated fats, eat to satiety. We Westmanians say “stick to page 4 and don’t bother with macros” which makes this all so much easier. However, if, like me, you came to this dance with eating disorders, you must learn to listen to your body. I can – and do – easily overeat.


#9

The best two articles I’ve seen on the subject:

Yes. It’s Not as Simple as Calories in Calories out but Calories Still Count. Here’s Why.

Why the First Law of Thermodynamics is Utterly Irrelevant


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #10

As Dr. Eric Westman likes to say, “Calories are important, but we shouldn’t count them.” The point is that the body has mechanisms, hunger and satiety, to ensure that it gets enough food, and it can also compensate, up to a certain point, for how muich or how little we give it. This is why we argue against calorie counting and advise eating fat to satiety.

The basic biochemistry of this is that we want to keep our insulin level as low as possible, because high insulin causes the carbohydrate we eat to be stored as fat. Fat cannot leave the fat cells if insulin is too high. Hence we advise eating under 20 g of carbohydrate a day, to keep insulin low. We need a certain amount of protein, and there are bodily mechanisms to make sure we get enough, so just eat what seems a reasonable amount, and don’t worry if you get “too much.” Fat is the macronutrient that stimulates insulin secretion the least, so it is the safest source of calories. Replace the carbohydrate you are not eating with fat.

It’s impossible to lose excess fat unless insulin is low, but the amount of food we eat also has an effect. If we don’t eat enough calories, our body will grimly hang on to its fat store, for emergencies. Eating enough food (in the absence of carbohydrate, of course) convinces the body it is safe to part with that excess fat, so the key to losing weight is sometimes to eat more, not less. The body responds to caloric abundance by—among other things—increasing the basal metabolic rate, spending energy on growing hair and on the reproductive system, and by getting fat cells to “waste” energy by metabolizing fat themselves. The mechanism by which we know we’re not eating enough is called “hunger;” the mechanism by which we know we’re eating enough, “satiety.”

So keep carbohydrate under 20 g/day, eat a reasonable amount of protein (whatever that is for your situation), and eat fat to satiety. And keto on!


#11

Thank you this was amazing


#12

So basically only measure proteins and carbs but eat as much fat as I want/need?


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

Basically. Keeping carbs as low as possible is well over 90% of this way of eating. The rest is really just tweaking for maximum effect.


(Carissa JB) #14

I try to keep it under 2000 most days. 1000 or 1200 on the weekend.
1000 calories every day seems like a starvation diet to me. You may want to increase it a little bit


#15

But I don’t ever feel hungry, when I do I eat more but 1000 is the number I am usually satisfied with.


(Carissa JB) #16

you are so lucky! I am usually hungry!


(KetoQ) #17

Hi Nicole –

I believe you when you say you’re not that hungry on 1000 calories. But you’ve only been doing this for two months.

I did OMAD for my first two months and struggled to eat between 1500-1800 calories a day, and was not hungry for more, and I have 100 pounds on you.

In time, your appetite may come roaring back. Mine did. Some days I’ll eat 2500 to 3000 calories, especially after a fast.

I was concerned for myself that there was going to be metabolic payback for not getting enough calories – like the people from The Biggest Loser study. So I’ve upped my calories. I think it keeps me in better balance. It is also a more sustainable way of eating when you can eat to satiety and not have to be thinking of your next meal. I also think eating to satiety keeps you from binging on carbs and sweets.

I’d advise upping your calories, even if you have to eat 2x day, and keep your calories at level that give you what your body needs.

Good luck.


(Allie) #18

What was your diet like before keto?


#19

Well I’m a baker so a loooot of sweets, I never worried about calories or anything.