Diabetes is a progressive disease

[richard]

Diabetic Living May/June 2017
Q:“I’m Told that type 1 and type 2 Diabetes are progressive conditions. What does that actually mean”
A:“Diabetes is a progressive disease and unfortunately that means most people get worse over time. However while that is true for those with type 2 diabetes, it is not always the case for people with type 1.”
Dr Sultan Linjawi, Endocrinologist

I mean … I hate to disagree with an educated endocrinologist about his specialty - but we going to have a festival in New London in July with hundreds of people who have all reversed their type 2 diabetes so it’s not always progressive.

[KetoKate]

I was wondering about this today @Richard; are you going to be putting out a press statement or inviting the local press along to Ketofest? Hard to continue arguing this traditional stance when faced with hundrerds who state otherwise…

[richard]

Julie researched that guy on the internet and found his personal page … check out the last paragraph.

http://www.drsultanlinjawi.com/profile/

Currently his research program includes five new clinical studies into diabetes. Some of these are international clinical trials of new treatments backed by pharmaceutical companies.

[richard]

are you going to be putting out a press statement or inviting the local press along to Ketofest? Hard to continue arguing this traditional stance when faced with hundrerds who state otherwise…

@carl and I are planning some press events, and yes that is a damn fine idea

[Chance]

Isn’t the problem that he assumes no change in lifestyle, because if that remains constant for any given individual, then his statement is true. I personally don’t like the description of diabetes as a disease in the first place.

Doctors face patients day in and day out who want a “pill” as a relatively high impact and immediate alternative to lifestyle change, such that for many of them lifestyle change becomes an impossibility which then falls out of the realistic options for treatment and is subsequently ignored allowing them to make statements like this one believing them to be true.

I imagine if someone mentioned that diabetes can be reversed with diet and /or weight loss he would concede the point but dismiss it with the conclusion that “few patients ever sustain this is the long run”.

[richard]

I think if he assumes that lifestyle change is not possible for diabetics then that says more about his personal biases about diabetics, than it does about diabetics ability to appreciate their problem and address it.

We have thousands here who have managed it.

[Chance]

Absolutely. The inability of human beings to spot personal bias (or traditional wisdom) and move beyond it has held back progress for thousands of years.

My personal prediction is that as Sugar has now been added in alongside fat as something to be avoided in significant amounts, at a certain point fat will quietly be dropped and the message from the medical and dietician world will be, “as we have always said, sugar is the main driver of diabetes…”

We have no problem admitting we were wrong yesterday as long as we are right today.

[Brenda]

backed by pharmaceutical companies

This pisses me off. Greedy wankers. They are making BILLIONS off of KEEPING PEOPLE SICK!!!

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I think if he assumes that lifestyle change is not possible for diabetics, then that says more about his personal biases about diabetics
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This pisses me off EVEN MORE

THE MOST

AAARRRRRGH

If I had only been given the option, I would have healed myself a lot sooner, and prevented the complications of T2DM as my condition progressed!!! (100+ pound weight gain, nueropathy, depression)
I had to figure all this out on my own!
I WAS LUCKY
What if I hadn’t found the ketogenic diet??!!
I’ve been on the ketogenic diet 3 years.

By now I might be dead! Or on dialysis! With an A1c of 12, trigs of 1200, and hypertension, I was on my way to an early DEATH. (A1c normal now at 5.5, trigs normal, no hypertension or depression)

Ever wonder why I, Ms Zorn, am so passionate about keto?

THIS IS WHY!!!

AND SO!
THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT

WE MUST UNFUCK THE WORLD!!!

…and get the information out there!
SAVE AS MANY DIABETICS AS WE CAN!!!

MAKES ME SO FUCKING PISSED OFF!!

[Chance]

I second everything you say…except maybe that greyed out word in the middle of “We must @%*&£ the world!!”

It’s clearly a bit of a rude word. There are number of possibilities, but the one that most easily springs to mind, I don’t think even a ketogenic diet would give me the energy to accomplish.

Can you give me a bit of a clue?

[Brenda]

It’s clearly a bit of a rude word.

Not sure I’m understanding you.
If you are saying you are offended by swear words, Ima LMFAO atcha cuz if you are, THAT IS WHAT THE “BLUR” IS FOR. SMDH
Are you simply suggesting I not use this mantra? Too late. You must not know me very well. Lol

[Brenda]

@Chance

UNFUCK means FIX

[NelleG]

You got to hug Jimmy Moore!? Now I’m jealous!

[Fiorella]

There goes Brenda…unfucking the world, one fucker at a time. Keep on unfucking!

[Daisy]

You know you can see the blurred word by clicking on it right?

[richard]

THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT

Yes. This is what motivates me too. We need to stand up to these experts, and say “No you are wrong! Type 2 Diabetes need not be progressive. It can be reversed. And type 2 diabetics deserve to know that.”

[Brenda]

And THIS is the guy who started it all for me. Andreas Eenfeldt “The Diet Doctor”.
I got to tell him that. In person

[brownfat]

But if you would follow their advice then it is progressive and irreversible exactly as they claim.

[Chance]

That’s like turning to the back of a puzzle book for the answers!

I am sure there’s a clue in the picture of Brenda and Jimmy Moore.

I think the answer is “hug”. We must hug the world. I love it.

[Chance]

Oh… I just clicked it.

[Brenda]

@Chance

Nope.

I MY world, I’m UNFUCKING .

My point further explained in this video. Lol
@Daisy. Look at this video. LMFAO