Day 18


(Jeff) #1

Day 18 on Keto. Aside from 5 lbs of water in the first 3 days, the scales is not moving at all. I’m tracking macros and I’m below 20 net grams (yes hidden sugars checked)

Here’s my day.

This morning

  • 3 eggs
  • butter
  • 2 strips bacon

Lunch

  • roast chicken (no sauce)
  • salad with just hand made oil and vinegar only

Snack

  • good fats bar (5 grams net carb)

Dinner

  • steak with no sauce
  • broccoli and oil

I don’t know how much more “Keto” I can get.

Unless my wife I force feeding me in my sleep I don’t know what’s going on!

Come of scale…give me a break already!!!

Male, 48, 225 lbs


Scale not moving in 13 days
(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Keto is a health normalization regimen. A lot of things happen when you start eating keto: hormones and enzymes readjust, cells and organs readjust, overall metabolism resets, accumulated crap goes out, and many other things. All at the same time. Weight loss is a side benefit.

If you’ve been overweight for a long time and/or prediabetic and/or insulin resistant - any or all could be inhibiting endogenous fat metabolism. Elevated insulin, for example, prevents fat from leaving the adipose tissue. Just being in ketosis is no guarantee of weight loss. First, whatever degree of metabolic disorder must be reversed at least partially. This requires time. Different for everyone.


(mole person) #3

Your diet looks good except for the snack bar. It’s better not to count net carbs on any proccessed foods. If you have to have the bar, count all the carbs in it. However, if you can, drop the snack altogether. Let your body have more hours in a day where it isn’t pushing insulin to deal with food intake. Do you have any other calorie sources like cream in coffee?

Really though it’s too early to worry. You are in the adaptation phase when your hormones are regulating. After a month you should find your hunger reducing and you will probably start eating less often. That’s the real magic of keto.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #4

I think you will find this of interest and pertinent:


(Katie) #5

I think dropping the snack in a good idea.
Add more fat. A couple tablespoons of coconut oil would be a great addition, an avocado, a small (5 or 6 pieces) handful of macadamia nuts would be a better choice.

Get your meals close together. The longer you go without eating at all the further down you can lower your insulin. Remember every time you eat your insulin goes up for the next 3 hours. You cannot burn fat with insulin flooding your blood. Keep the total time of elevated insulin down to a minimum.


(mole person) #6

Can an admin merge these two threads please, @PaulL.


(Jeff) #7

Aside from 5 lbs of water weight in the first 3 days I’ve lost nothing so far and I’m frustrated.

I’ve ate clean (under 25 gram of carbs per day). No hidden sugars.

Today’s food…

2 eggs, 2 bacon, butter

Roast chicken, no sauces
Salad, no dressing but my own vinegar and oil

Steak & broccoli with olive oil

A good fats bar (5 grams of carbs in it).

No hidden sugars

The scale has literally not moved in 13 days…what gives?

225 lb, Male 48


(Jeff) #8

Sorry for double post. I didn’t think the other went through.


(Full Metal KETO AF) #9

You are a little impatient. It takes time for metabolic changes and real fat loss. A stall is 6-8 weeks without change. There is still a lot happening in your body. Don’t focus on weight for now and note if your waistband is getting looser and shirts getting baggier. That often shows up before the scale moves. Just check weekly maybe so you don’t get frustrated. A pint of water weighs a pound. Lots of things factor into weight. Anyway you don’t want to loose weight, you want to loose fat. You didn’t gain that fat in a few weeks so it’s unreasonable to expect it to disappear so quickly. Most people once settled into keto after 2 months are loosing 1-2 lbs per week if things are working well. You will likely start losing again soon, it usually comes in stair steps. That means being diligent about sticking with it even when it appears to not be doing anything for you it is. Believe me. You’re hormones are changing in the way they respond to your diet and being in ketosis, it’s a process. :cowboy_hat_face:


(Trish) #10

The food you’re eating seems great but what about the timing of it? I’ve also just had a 4 week spell with no weight loss. Lost 10 pounds the first 2 weeks then up and down 2 to 3 pounds. I’m fasting now and that has gotten things moving again. Check out Dr. Jason Fung. He has a ton of stuff available for free on line. Idmprogram.com
Or just google him and watch his youtube lectures. You will gain a wealth of knowledge.
Mostly just hang in there. I is frustrating for sure but will be worth it in the long haul. Remember that the keto way of life is for the long term.


(Trish) #11

Also this. https://youtu.be/xF3rmi4DJAw


(Empress of the Unexpected) #12

Hang in there. It will happen. I’m an older lady, and while I lost a bit of water weight and was not really overweight to begin with, it took me six months to lose 11 pounds. Ten months later, down another 14 pounds and now am trying to gain weight. But know that lots of good things are happening to your body.


(April Harkness) #13

First month i had zero weight loss…zero when i started in April. But sticking with it set habits and foundations for me to succeed. And i ended up speeding past ppl 6 months into keto who had lost faster than me initially. Not that this is a competition. It is not. But im glad i stuck with it. One of my teammates at my gym who started keto the same time i did, lost weight right off the bat and i was slow to lose and actually started off bigger. A year later…one of us has a sixpack and one is still trying to get it. I will give u a hint. It was the tortoise who got the sick pack. :wink: Patience.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #14

Hey, Jeff. I merged the two threads, because the topics are basically the same.

As people have pointed out, a ketogenic diet is primarily about restoring metabolic health, with fat loss, if one has extra stored fat, as a desirable side effect.

The first thing to bear in mind is that fat loss is not a linear process. It happens in fits and starts. The primary requirement is to keep your insulin level low enough to permit fatty acids to be released from your fat tissue, and you do that by eating as little carbohydrate as you can manage, since carbohydrate has a significant effect on insulin secretion.

The second thing to bear in mind is that the body will hang on to its fat reserve in times of famine, and the signal that there is a famine going on is a reduction in caloric intake. So, paradoxically, the way to convince the body to let go of excess fat is to give it enough calories. We need a certain amount of protein every day, so the effect of protein on insulin is always going to be there, but fat has almost zero effect on insulin secretion, which makes it the idea source of calories to replace those lost by cutting out carbohydrate. So yes, eat fat in order to lose fat! Who knew? The easiest way to make sure you are getting enough food is to eat to satisfy your hunger: eat when hungry, stop eating when no longer hungry, and don’t eat again till hungry again.

The last thing to bear in mind is that those amazing stories of fat loss on a ketogenic diet come from people who had lots to lose. The closer we get to a normal body composition, the more slowly fat comes off. There is also the possibility that giving your body abundant nutrition will cause it to add some muscle and increase the density of your bones. These great effects can confuse the scale, so keep track of your fat loss by measuring your waist line, as well as by weighing yourself.