Dairy farmers struggling


(Jo O) #1

Not sure which category to post this…

Dairy farmers struggling

Bad news/good news

Read an article about Vermont dairy farmers struggling. Then today read another article about Washington state organic farmers struggling.

My takeaways:
++A. THEY are seeing the change in public preference for high fat products.
—B. It’s going to take a lot of investment and time to change to adapt. (Difference breeds, retooling the processing, etc)…
—C. Organic is restricted to a quota. Any quantity OVER quota is priced as regular.

They are not going to survive/succeed without our long term support.


(Brian) #2

Just met a neighbor day before yesterday. Interesting conversation. They as the actual farmer and producer get $1.50/gal. They also have to pay for part of the shipping costs to get their milk off the farm.

It’s not the farmers’ fault we’re seeing $4 - $6 a gallon milk.

FWIW…


(Chris W) #3

I am in a related industry, the problem is two fold at least locally in my area. One the farmers are all getting larger volume so that of course is a supply and demand thing, that particular company itself wanted to expand but could not.
Two the supply chain does not react well to price changes for a number of reasons, I am in the cheese end of it. We can purchase cheese and store it, so my company buys low and sells high as any reasonable company would do. So that is the first buffer as why the prices don’t change, I will admit milk is more time sensitive. The people we sell to are often based on contracts, so we set a price and are stuck at that price for x amount of time.

Con founders for us are foreign markets, china for instance buys a lot of cheese currently. This in of itself based on my understanding of current supply is not an issue, but what does cause problems is that most cheese producers make the cheese in an export form which is smaller sized and wrapped in plastic and placed in cardboard boxes.
Most of my machinery is designed to handle bulk sizes about 18 times the size of what the high demand is and most producers make. So we now have to pay to have people open the boxes and strip the plastic, well it all costs money and that gets passed on even though the producers adapted to the demand. That is just one example.

Another thing is that the organic market at least for cheese is crazy, the product can cost up to twice as much to process as conventional cheese for IMHO very little difference because of the special requirements that make no major difference. Non-GMO is even worse, and I think even less difference as a matter of personal opinion but that is another topic all together.


(Jo O) #4

Appreciate your behind-the-scenes perspective.
What a tangled web we weave.
I had no idea China was increasing their cheese consumption. I assume you will be affected by the proposed China tariffs. I can’t image how scared the hog farmers are right now.

Just read another story that Ireland dairy farmers are in their own crisis (feed, not politics unless you count climate change). https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/many-farmers-struggling-in-fodder-crisis-aided-others-in-need-36785064.html

So many unintended consequences.


(Chris W) #5

I assume that it will be minimal if at all mostly equipment usage changes. The producers may be effected but my understanding is that its any easy change and a more efficient process to go back to larger bulk containers. The prices have been dynamic with wilder swings lately, but the demand has also been very high, the biggest hit we have taken has been when the hurricane hit Puerto Rico they eat a lot of cheese there. Most cheeses I deal with are hard, and they can be aged and that fetches a higher price anyway.

Your article link is bad but I found it. Yes weather happens, it snowed here the last few days, typically the farmers are starting to harrow the ground(where needed) this time of the year and starting to plant in the next week or so. The ground is still frozen, so it will be a late spring. So if that creates a regional increase in price the farmers that did produce will be happy. The same can be said of bumper crop years, they get mad when the prices are low.