With me it is dairy! A couple cups of milk? Up four pounds.
Clean vs dirty keto- is this real?
SlowBurnMary
#44
I looooove bleu cheese dressing - it goes so well with leftover meat as a dip, or mixed with cottage cheese as a protein-rich dip for an apple (which I try to eat a few of each week as part of my lazy keto antioxidant & pectin regimen). Currently am eating the one from the recipe in Phinney & Volekâs book.
These are great too:
BeStill
#45
Other than a small amount of grass fed butter, I had no dairy today (I also took ginger capsules for first time) and I felt pretty great, lack of dairy may have also contributed to my feeling better.
BeStill
#46
Whatâs interesting is when I had the pieces of bacon that were just fat, I seemed fine (no hand swelling, no weight gain) BUT any bacon that had the veins of ham-like portions in itâŠweight up and swollen 
ClareBear
(Steaks b4 cakes! đ„©đ„)
#47
To me, my definition of Dirty Keto would be the pre-made packaged foods marketed as âKetoâ. Itâs processed just like other foods are so youâre not fully sure of all the ingredients.
I like to know whatâs in all my meals so I stay away from stuff like this, but then again, what doesnât work for me may work for someone else, so at the end of the day who am I to judge someone elseâs food choices? 
everyoneâs body is different.
Taka
#48
Iâll just add yet again, that every body is different. Some people donât see their weight change much until they start intermittent fasting or OMAD, some need to eliminate treat-like foods. Other people have seen better weight loss by eating a lot, as long as keeping it keto, and never bothering to track. It is often recommended here that when you start out, you should eat until satiety at every meal (and quit the snacking after a while). But then again, some people have good results with carb cycling when they are within 20-30 lbs of target weight. Eating more for a few days can cause higher metabolism, but it often also causes some weight gain.
How different foods and eating habits work, is different for every body. The only way to find out what works for oneself is getting to know oneâs own body. This might require trying new things, giving up old habits, making bad mistakes or surprisingly good mistakes. Listening to others is good, and getting as maby sides ti the story as possible is even better. Using other peopleâs different experiences to understand oneself is wise, but you should avoid categorisation.
Iâm personally doing lazy keto with non-keto low carb days mixed in. I call it lazy because I canât be bothered to track or calculate, I just common-sense my meals. I could also say Iâm doing dirty keto, but that sounds too dirty. It isnât even true, since sweeteners are rather pure chemicals, and smoke has never made any meat dirty. Even dairy goes through âcleaningâ processes like pateurisation, so⊠And even if some would call it dirty, it works for me. Thatâs all that matters, really.