Catch 22


(Miss E) #1

I was talking to my physio about some muscle issues and pins and needles I was having. He said it’s nervous system related and that I need more sleep etc. He has done IF in the past but thinks the keto diet is harder on the body than other WOE.

It seems a catch 22 to me because switching over to fat burning is harder on the body but also has the potential to heal issues in my body that make life harder.


(matt ) #2

Harder on the body based on what?

I would say it’s easier on the body if you ask me. My body (and mind) are certainly happier and healthier on keto.


(Allie) #3

Go with your own opinions and how you feel


(Miss E) #4

Based on the fact that burning fat isn’t as efficient a process for the body and that it puts some organs under strain, such as kidneys and liver.


(Miss E) #5

Plus if it induces insomnia then you can struggle with hormones and nervous system weakness.


(Liz ) #6

IMO it’s glucose & insulin that are hard on the organs, eating Keto is giving mine a break. And when I think about the reduced inflammation alone! It’s amazing.

My sleep was interrupted at the beginning of my Keto journey and sometimes when I fast but I think I sleep better than ever now, over one year in.


(Alan Williamson) #7

Keto gives me good vibes.


(Miss E) #8

Kudos to you sir :stuck_out_tongue:

It gives me great vibes…but it also gives me the jeebies.


(Marlene Moleon) #9

I don´t know about liver, but for sure don´t stress your kidneys. Too much protein stress your kidneys.


(matt ) #10

I would need to see proof that Keto stresses the organs. Sounds like Dr speak to me.

As far as sleep most folks get better sleep once they have adapted. But folks differ.


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #11

Too much protein stressing kidneys is a myth that really needs to die.

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/1743-7075-2-25?site=nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2912408/

Die, Vampire Myth, Die!


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #12

A magnesium supplement with zinc and B6 straightens your sleep out big time. Magnesium does a lot of really great things for you in addition.


(Ethan) #13

Too much protein without fat consumption in lean people is dangerous though.


(Miss E) #14

I am taking that


(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #15

Yeah. So add HWC to your whey shakes, meatheads.

You and I know lean protein is the tool of the devil, right?


#16

We all come in different shapes, sizes, ages, body types, etc.

I think someone making a blanket statement about keto is unwise. And I say that about someone who claims that Keto Is Great For Everyone, just as I say that about a claim that Keto Is Hard On The Body.

Kind of absurd statements, aren’t they?

Far better to do some research, find a way to make Keto enjoyable and sustainable - and then give it a try. You can always stop it if you don’t like it.

Just because one person has an opinion, probably based on their personal experience, doesn’t mean that you will have the same experience (I have seen a lot of people give up when they get keto flu, and then loudly announce that ‘keto doesn’t work’. Their choice, of course, but rather irritating…)


(Ethan) #17

No doubt. I think most people here are good with the fat levels. A lot of novices on keto though find it hard to adapt to the concept that fat is good initially. Also, a lot of people who are not in this woe think of it old Atkins style. I have told people I eat ketogenic when they ask about dietary restricts, and many times they respond with something like, “No problem, I’ll make some boneless, skinless chicken breast so you can have lots of good protein.”

Also, by my personal code it is never ok to turn down rabbit meat, even if it has no fat.