Carnivore claims about plant foods

(Robert C) #62

I guess you are helping me make my point.

I do not think there is any basis for that - you didn’t list marrow, brain, connective tissue etc.

This limited list might work for you but, again, picking X, Y and Z out of nose-to-tail but trusting the research and studies based on nose-to-tail - might not be be a good long-term bet.

What I am wondering is whether skipping connective tissue would best be supplemented with glucosamine or skipping skin best handled with collagen.

I think if people - to get their “Carnivore” card had to either eat nose-to-tail or had to eat all of the necessary supplements along with their tasty muscle meat steaks - then it could be much better compared to other diets (in terms of compliance, effectiveness etc.).

(Karim Wassef) #63

actually - the reason I picked those is because they’re highly available and provide most of what you need.

I personally like to add brain for omega 3, but add fish, roe and eggs and you’re there.

skin, bone and connective tissue ~ collagen… so the amino acid composition is not that different.

I think we can make things hard or look for the easy solution that provides the greatest benefit - pareto

So - muscle meat, fat, skin, liver, fish, roe and eggs … how’s that? :smiley:

(Karim Wassef) #64

do you actually think that people don’t know this?

I was being funny - and you don’t like it… I get that. you are clearly offended.

I’m going to leave it at that - life can be a lot more fun when you smile and try to help others.

:smiley:

(Robert C) #65

If a cow eats sauerkraut - it becomes carnivore sauerkraut.
Before it goes in the cow - it is a fermented plant.

I guess Carnivore is supposed to really help with gut health.
But if kimchi and sauerkraut do a better job - I’d stick with them (after giving Carnivore a chance - i.e. time off of the fermented vegetables to see if Carnivore actually does better).

(Robert C) #66

Looking better.

You forgot to list the fermented vegetables :rofl::rofl:

(Karim Wassef) #67

funny you should say that… I actually believe in alternating foods…

I’m mostly carnivore but I am vegan for two months in the middle of the year and pescatarian in the last two months of the year.

I’m vegan for now… but in May, I will be back to bacon.

And I am eating sauerkraut now, when I’m not fasting… but I don’t consider bacteria to be truly vegan. Bacteria are not plants. Mushrooms are not plants… but I allow them into my vegetable only world. :smiley:

(Karim Wassef) #68

hmm… how about honey… and locust…

I think eating locust is definitely carnivore

I think honey is pollen vomited by bees… isn’t that “similar” to milk from cows?

I’m really just playing - please don’t take this seriously… :joy:

#69

Yes, there really are people in the world that don’t know this. I know people that can’t figure out that bread is a carbohydrate.

Life is better for everyone when people try to help others.
Spreading misinformation and abusing the English language does not help others, it hurts them, and offends those who care about the language. People will come across these snippets and not realize how off they are from the usual meanings of the words, and be lead to believe incorrect things that could, at best, embarrass them or at worst lead to further misunderstandings in the general public as they spread the terms themselves without realizing the problem.

Even if humor (and I don’t see the humor here with this one), there is the danger of an effect like sometimes shows up with The Onion (which is more obviously and purposefully meant to be satire and humor) when swaths of people mistake stories from it for actual news.

#70

To be fair, the English languages deserves to be roughed up a bit.

#71

The English language has been roughed up more than enough already. It’s a spectacular language that is indeed very adaptable (largely though it’s high acceptance of word adoption and incorporation) but at some point stretching words results in them being less useful and we loose the ability to say what we mean and be understood.

(Carl Keller) #72

@Karim_Wassef You do you. I think you are very helpful to the community and I enjoy your posts and non-confrontational attitude. The forum could use more people like you sir.

(G Whistler) #73

Many carnivore advocates say you can get by on just muscle meat. Is this not the case?

(G Whistler) #74

I’m not able to cook bone broths, I can’t leave a stove on consistently all day and night. Are there any good alternatives?

(G Whistler) #75

How do you source connective tissue?

(G Whistler) #76

I agree, but most of the carnivore people i’ve spoken to swear that approach is ok.

I eat relatively cheap ground beef because a) it’s the only source that has 20% fat, everything else is very very lean and b) it’s affordable. I couldn’t afford ribeye the same amount. These cuts are way more expensive. Still I’m told this is fine. I don’t know if the beef I buy is grass fed but I’m told that in the UK beef is always grass fed. However the retailer will not confirm so there’s no way to be sure (I’ve tried). We’re not left with a lot of options.

(G Whistler) #77

I eat about 1oz (cooked weight) chicken liver a day. Is that sufficient organ meat?

(Omar) #78

not bad and better than nothing

I eat 100 grams of goat liver

(Chris) #79

Raw marrow is like candy.

(Chris) #80

Yes

(mole person) #81

I don’t think many people cook bone broth on a stove top. A crock pot is the most common method and perfectly safe to leave on. That’s the whole point of them. Even better is an Instant Pot, as it will reduce a 48 hour cook time down to a couple of hours.