I’m sure you’ve likely said before, but how do you know it’s oxalates dumping? I guess I need to read up on that more.
I haven’t had a hard and long AFIB like that in quite a while. I breathe through mine too but have not done the bone broth and magnesium.
I always have mag on hand and salt of course, but need to keep some bone broth around to try.
Glad you came out the other side. Thanks, as always, for sharing yourself.
So glad to hear you got through your latest attack. I can’t remember the last time you had one it seems such a while ago… . You deal with them so well but they mist be quite scary when they go on a while!
That sounds kind of autoimmune.
I’m glad your symptoms settled down for you somewhat quickly.
Clockwise from top left: Gelatin, xanthan, baking soda, control.
Xanthan is the loser.
Baking soda is best with gelatin a close second. May combine the two.
Yes, the pins and needles, the all over prickling and joint pain with swollen digits does have a real hypersensitivity, or immune system over-reaction appearance. I did have an ugly reaction to a coronavirus injection a few years ago, then a coronavirus infection, and the same symptoms occurred in conjunction with those events. To the point where I consulted an immunologist and took some prescribed drugs for a few months. So, I agree it could be an immune system response, deep down I’m glad it responds, and it lines up with exposure as I had been exposed to a variety of people with ‘colds’ recently, some of them with COVID. But I haven’t yet fully expressed any of the cold and flu symptoms.
Then there is the heart thing as well. That was not a consistent component of the ills around the immune disease and the pandemic. The link is that after the injection reaction and the coronavirus infection, if and when I did have an atrial fibrillation episode, it had gone from feeling light-headed and in love (heart flutters), to actual heart ache and chest pain. They increased in frequency to about weekly for a period of time. This year, prior to this recent episode, it has been over 6 months since I’ve had an attack. Chest pain enough to visit hospital a few times in 2023, to be discharged without any serious findings.
When the things combine, I look to oxalate dumping as a possible cause as it relates to being a side effect of the carnivore WoE. I may be connecting the wrong dots. Yes, @robintemplin, I have to revisit the information on it. The set-up is that I usually am going really well on the way of eating, and meals and menus are all dialled in, no snacking, no cheating. It’s that few weeks of ‘cleaning out the system’ that seems to allow stored oxalates to dump into various body systems. There are signals that I recognise: rapid dental calculus build up, skin lesions that look like dry patches (could be ringworm) in 5c size lesions that when scratched are gritty or sandy, gritty eye boogers that waxy component of gunk that gathers in the eyes with sleep, excessive ear wax, cloudier urine. This time I didn’t get sore teeth, but that is another signal. On an acute dump episode these coincide with increased thirst and urination, lethargy and agitation, overall itchiness/ tingling, and then the heart arrhythmia as the oxalate chelates the minerals from the blood into insoluble salts that hopefully get excreted out through the kidneys without shredding the filters too much (it’s why I take magnesium as citrate - to prevent calcium oxalate crystal formation). Work stress does not help.
It feels good to write it all out in a summary again to revise. I feel better today. Some residue minor joint aches in my hands and ‘pins & needles’ in small areas.
Last night I had a delicious steak and two eggs, some pan-fried haloumi cheese.
Reading:
Examples of High Oxalic Acid (OA) Foods:
beans, grains, bran, sesame and other seeds, peanuts, almonds, and other nuts, swiss chard, spinach, beets, potatoes, chocolate, rhubarb, figs, kiwi, blackberries, black pepper, cumin, turmeric.
Examples of Low Oxalic Acid (OA) Foods:
meats, dairy, eggs, fats and oils, and other non-plant foods
arugula, avocado, Bok Choy, cabbage, cauliflower, cilantro, cucumber, garlic, kohlrabi, lettuce, mustard greens, mushrooms, green peas, watercress
@FrankoBear Thanks for all this. You are dealing with so many various issues!
Now I remember the symptoms of oxalate dumping, but I think it was while I was still early keto, and pre carnivore.
I was carnivore for a couple years but for various other issues, I’ve added in a daily smoothie I make with some veggies. Diverticulitis has kicked my butt the point where I’m having part of my colon removed next week. YAY!
But I seem to have my AFib at a controllable level. And even my most severe episodes never included chest pain. Thank goodness.
I’m a pro at meditation breathing through any pain I have experienced in life, but chest pains might cause a fear that I have not known before.
Good grief! Hope you continue to be ok after that. My husband, 60, keto, seems to have had an issue since his first vaccine in 2020. Very vague symptoms including rosacea, something heart related as well he has not been able to fully describe to me. Nothing drastic but definitely something went a bit haywire. He hasn’t seen a dr about it.
Back from our very short vacation. We had beautiful weather, it did not change my mental health much to be away from caregiving as it’s never far from one’s mind. It was so much planning, worry, prep. I think it was worth it but the pain of returning to full time mom wrangling again is almost worse.
Anyway the food was good. The steak at our favorite restaurant was perfection as always, had that two nights.
Tried a new-to-us breakfast place that didn’t blink much when I asked for the steak eggs Benedict, no muffin, side of bacon only.
Mostly stayed carnivore but ate more often than usual. Drank a bit. Doesn’t feel like it will be any difficulty getting back to my routine. My recently back-online hunger signal seems to still be accurate even with the disruption.
We left the island at 3:45pm, walked in the door at 6:40 and I had cheeseburgers and hot dogs ready by 7:40. Helps that my husband unloaded the car!
Mom was a bit manic excited to see me but didn’t seem much the worse for wear from my absence. Sometimes I’ve returned to find her a disheveled and confused mess.
Sad to still be trapped in this part of my life but glad to see my garden and get back to my quilting. I have three projects I’d like to finish before December.
Food… brunch …sausage and cheese omelette at the cafe. Had a bit of roquefort cheese to finish it off… very small packrt to befon with. Then for dinner had belly pork, sooo nice!
This m9rning before food ran to CrossFit and walked longer route home with a free pvc pole from the box. Then got bus to Beeston on the direct route so when i got off i had to run just over half a mile to the cafe to meet Raymond who had been there a good half n hour or so waiting for me…i wasn’t late , he called me from the cafe to find out whether i wanted to join him … i had just got in from CF. Then after we walked some shops and did his shopping i walked the 3 miles home. Weather was just right today, cooler than yesterday. CF wod was a teams workout.
According to Sally Norton just about everything wrong with you is attributable to oxalate dumping. I’m in the process of reading her book Toxic Superfoods and if it’s just half true it’s an eye opener.
Thank you sir. Staying busy helps. It was my father in law and he was 91. Used up and ready to go. He was a Christian and secure in his salvation. We are glad he found peace.
Sunday i took my son Ben to the Bus Rally … it was a local meet and i went with him on my own as Sian had a family birthday party to attend. We had a good day and 4 reasonably long bus rides on vintage buses. He was so good and easy to be with. I had got a bit anxious and didn’t sleep very well the night before but i think that was because it had been such a long time since i had done anything like that with him on my own
… of course i needn’t have worried. I had a very quite day really as he doesn’t converse but i did hi-jack a couple of strangers to chat to during the day 
we ate in the heritage transport museum cafe and i had 2 sausages 2 fried eggs 2 bacon and a cheapy beef burger. When i returned home i cooked up 2 belly pork joints…ate 1 and ate both cracklings. I saved the pork of the 2nd one to eat cold and had that for lunch today followed by 2 lamb burgers for dinner which were yuk and have just not long ago had 2 black pudding.
I ran to CrossFit this morning then briskly walked home via the nature reserve. Lovely weather today and meant to be in for the week. Bout time we had a summer!
The problem with a list like that at Sally Norton’s location is that I have basically none of those things, yet I still eat some high oxalate foods (chocolate, mainly). Eating a few more now due to eating some peanuts, which I don’t normally eat.
Then, am I just not eating enough oxalates to cause damage? Or what?
I can’t say, maybe you aren’t sensitive to them? I didn’t know a thing about oxalates but when I went full carnivore from keto in Feb 2020, after about 7 days I had incapacitating pain in my gut and my joints felt like they had shards of glass in them. I swear every old injury site was irritated. I desperately read up on how to hurry the oxalate dumping process! Basically I hydrated and waited it out, I can’t remember how long it took, but after a while I was fine. The gut pain was only 1 day.
So what I’m saying is, I didn’t really notice oxalates until I went cold turkey.
Yesterday went to CrossFit , ran there and walked home afterwards.
This morning i had to drive to Sians gor the cats then go to the tyre garage and get the tyres inspected for the MOT next week. Needed to replace one tyre that wouldn’t have got throught MOT.
Had to go to a U3A meeting at midday in Beeston so decided to walk there…approx 3m had brunch at the cafe… 2 fried eggs sitting on cheese topped black puddings very tasty…then walked home again.
Just eaten a rump steak for dinner after returning from Sians kitty cats. Also had a bit of cheese.
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