Carb addiction is worse than my actual drug addiction


(Vladaar Malane) #41

@ava_ad0re

Stay with it, you can do it!

For me sugar is my addiction.

Bread used to be as well, but I broke the bread addiction, by listening to the audio book Wheat Belly about 5 times in a row back and forth to work. I now associate wheat with fat and haven’t had any since.

Sugar as in icecream, peanut butter, chocolate call to me hard and I have to work at keeping those cravings at bay.


(Running from stupidity) #42

Good to see that you understand that Vegemite is vastly better than Marmite.


(Carpe salata!) #43

Mate, you have not lived.

I agree it’s an acquired taste, and fair call about Marmite. But on those odd occasions … it’s just what you need. :smiley:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #44

Promite is far superior
Oh my lord, I can almost smell the toast.


(Running from stupidity) #45

Too sweet, mostly. Although, I do have a jar here…


#46

A question:
sugar can change the brain - found in a quick search as I knew nothing about carbohydrate addiction;
keto is known to help with depression, and ADHD, and is being researched as a means to help bipolar;
is there evidence that keto can 'heal, ‘reverse changes’, alter a brain that changed because of years of high sugar?

There’s lots of research about fuel efficiency and sport - many of the researchers were sportsmen, and there’s research about keto and metabolic disease. Is there research about keto and brain health and function?

And where is the most comprehensive and maintained directory about keto related research?


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #47

The brain change that they are talking about is most likely the down-regulation of dopamine receptors in the brain’s reward center—the same change that happens with any addictive drug taken in quantity. Dopamine stimulates the cells, and too much dopamine can damage or even kill them, so each hit of dopamine causes these cells to down-regulate their dopamine receptors in self-defense.

I don’t know if ketones in the brain will cause dead cells to be replaced or help damaged ones to heal, but it is possible that the absence of high levels of dopamine is enough to allow healing and new cell growth.

The help with depression is the result of higher levels of seratonin in the brain, they think. Serotonin is made of tryptophan, one of the essential amino acids. The problem is that serotonin is useful in many places in the body, so only about 10% or so of the tryptophan we eat even makes it into the brain.


(Beata) #48

Katie, there is a style of ketogenic diet called the Paleo Ketogenic Diet promoted by the team of doctors and researchers from Hungary.
They have very seccesful clinical results with this diet. Please, look it up and have a skype consultation with Dr.Zsofia Clemens.
Their website is Paleomedicina (recently they changed their name to the International Center for Medical Nutritional Intervention). I am their patient and with their system recovered from 25 years of heavily medicated hypothyroidism.
Their diet removes any chance of chance of “falling off the wagon”.
Best of luck.


#49

I nominate this post for one of the TOP BEST, and MOST AWESOME posts on the forum.

Admin - I’d like to humbly suggest there be a special, easy-to-find section for “Addiction & Recovery” to encourage more discussion about the many gems in this thread related to dual addictions, and how the struggle is real! I think it’d be a shame for it to fall into the archives and only found via the search bar function. @Brenda @Daisy @devhammer ?


#50

Good idea. Maybe under Progress?

You can also use the tag function when writing posts but most people forget - me included!


(Stephanie) #51

I too have been carb loading and I feel like shit but its like I cant stop!
I need to refocus. Holidays are coming up and I just dont want to indulge.
Its terrible.


(Janine Lazur) #52

It’s not your imagination that carbs have a bigger pull. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-rats-who-preferred-su_b_712254


(Running from stupidity) #53

OTOH - http://behavioralscientist.org/no-sugar-isnt-new-heroin/


#54

There you go again, with your objective point of view! :wink:

Anyone, isn’t there a rule against journalists in this forum? :grin:


(Running from stupidity) #55

Yeah, sorry :slight_smile:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #56

I wish I could replicate my drug fat loss with my actual weight loss now. I looked way hotter when I was a druggie, lmfao.
Pic for reference! I will get back there, in about 8 weeks. Lol.

DRUG LOSS;

FAT LOSS;


#57

Well, it may have something to do with the poses, too. :laughing:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #58

Oh yeah, was definitely going for max effect back then.
Those days are over, i’m a responsible adult now who pays my bills. I’m so broke, lol.


#59

Yeah, growing up sucks, doesn’t it? :grin:


(Katie the Quiche Scoffing Stick Ninja ) #60

Haha, it sure does. But that’s okay. As long as mum is proud i’m all good. :stuck_out_tongue: