Can you gain weight doing 2mad

#1

I feel best on two meals a day no bloat no hunger but I want to gain weight.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Keto is a metabolic normalization process that generally includes weight/fat normalization. This fact is most often utilized to lose excessive fat and reduce overall weight down to a new healthy normal. But it also works the other way. If you’re underweight keto will tend to increase overall weight to a new healthy normal. There’s a range of ‘normal’ for any specific individual and the new ‘normal’ may not end up being what you thought or hoped it would be.

To gain muscle mass eat more protein and increase physical activity to encourage your body to need more. If you do strength and weight exercises you can also increase bone density. All good.

How many times a day you eat is irrelevant, as long as you eat enough in total to give yourself sufficient protein and energy to do the job. When your goal is to increase lean mass, don’t skimp on the protein and fat. :muscle:

How much percetage of protein is 75 grams on a 1500 calorie diet
#3

Yes, you can increase body mass on 2MAD, if you eat enough.

The question is slightly ambiguous. Eating a processed junk food diet, the mainstream norm, twice a day pretty much guarantees body fat and weight gain. The challenge there would be keeping things 2MAD.

Attempting to eat 2g of whole foods protein per kg of ideal (goal) body weight is an interesting experiment to start with. It can be a challenge. It can be highly satiating. No need to add fat. Vegans and vegetarians have to eat a lot of volume unless they supplement processed protein powder. For meat eaters don’t trim fat from any meat (unless you are suspicious of the feed fed to the animal, e.g. pork or bacon, chicken or duck).

For example, I eat 3 large eggs cooked in a small amount of pan grease with 120g or so of oily fish like mackerel or salmon. Then 6 or 7 hours later I’ll eat a 600g - 700g portion of beef. It’s hard and delicious going. Things can be added around it like fermented dairy, or fermented vegetables, whole food organ meats, bone broths, or a green leaf salad, if that’s what feels like is needed.

#4

It is a challenge to me, my body often wants 3+ instead. I never could figure out not eating high protein, it was only easy on my few plant-based days but I overdid carbs then…

Vegetarians are fine (if their taste/attitude is right for that), they can eat all the dense animal protein they want, I surely did that (almost. I moderate myself a bit). Low volume is possible but tricky if one likes their veggies in big amounts. But one hardly can eat much veggies on keto anyway so volume per meal can’t be a problem under normal circumstances (normal stomach capacity, not too high energy need - even adding dense food, people tend to have some natural energy limit for their meals).
I like diets with not too many strict rules, we have so many options, we probably can find what suits us.

I go for fatty meat now, it’s good for losing, good for gaining but we may need to tweak other things in order to reach our goals. Changing the number of meals are a good tool for me (if my body cooperates) but it may matter how close my meals are… The smaller the distance, the less I can and need to eat, usually. Timing is important anyway, starting my eating window early or late makes a big difference, the later I eat, the more food I need for my first meal. Usually. There are too many factors so my satiation surprises me sometimes.
But my food choices control my intake the most (and it seems to be the case with most people). Even some protein sources tend to be less satiating than others.

(Bob M) #5

So, made 2 ducks the other day. The recipe uses a technique where you prick the skin many times and also steam the duck. This releases a lot of fat. Put that fat into molds, left on the counter overnight. Also, had taken duck fat off the duck and put in a small pot to “boil” for a while. Put that into some of the molds.

In the morning, ALL the fat was still liquid, not solid. That’s not good.

Compare with the fat drained off from cooking ground pork or bacon from Fire in a Bottle’s pork. Drained into a container, this was solid enough after getting near room temp, that I could put the container upside down, and the fat just sat there, stuck to the container.