Bill Gates and his endeavors


#1

Most of us here probably know who Bill Gates is. He does loads of “philanthropical” work. This article was kind of odd to me, but since it relates to our intake I figured I’d post it.

Anyway…
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-23/cargill-bill-gates-bet-on-startup-making-meat-without-slaughter

Not sure how I feel about this. Canned “meat”… eew. Engineered canned meat?! Ehhhh


(Chris) #2

I’m 1000% sure what I think about this. It’s quackery. Plant based meat sounds like a death sentence.


(Khara) #3

Why is there no emoji that depicts both scared and repulsed? That’s what my face is doing.


(Chris) #4

Branson wants to live in a world where we don’t have to kill animals. That’s a death sentence for animals if you ask me.

“We believe that consumers will continue to crave meat"

Well no sh*t.


(Kate) #5

Umm gross. :scream:


(Judi Campion) #6

Ummm how does engineered meat fit into a Ketogenic lifestyle? My understanding is we are to choose food in its most natural state over processed foods.


(Anderson Herzogenrath Da Costa) #7

It doesn’t.


#8

Why so surprised? Both Bill and Melinda advocate for lowering the global population. What better way to do it than being one of Monsanto’s biggest donors, and now this! Of course getting to people through their computers helps too. All hail Big Brother! Low fat good, high fat bad…Round-Up veggies niiiiiiiiiiiiice…


#9

Start planting nut trees!


#10

This word should be used in quotation and context in regard to Bill Gates.


(Chris) #11

It doesn’t fit into any lifestyle.


(Judi Campion) #12

You are so right my friend!


(Sjur Gjøstein Karevoll) #13

I think it’s pretty fascinating. So far it’s pretty far from being marketable and I wouldn’t want to eat it (and probably won’t for a long time), but it has some interesting potential. The most interesting aspect in my opinion is how it requires a lot less energy than raising live animals. Animals “waste” a lot of energy moving around doing their animal things in addition to growing the meat we eat so we only get about 10% efficiency from the feed we give them. These cell cultures just sit there and spend all their energy growing so we get about twice as much efficiency out of them. This has tremendous implications for our ability to switch to an economically viable meat-based diet on a large scale.

There’s a lot of issues with this still, and I’m not thinking about the product itself which at the moment isn’t really viable, but in any case that’s an engineering issue and thus should be left to the bio-engineers for the time being. The issue I’m most worried about is even though this reduces the energy requirements to grow meat it still doesn’t enable sustainable agriculture by itself. In fact it might prolong the life of our current industrialized agriculture model, possibly leading to greater ecological damage than if we continue at our current pace and realize something needs to change sooner.


#14

Fixed +1


(ianrobo) #15

no different to the crap Quorn vegan meats etc. Awful stuff.

No of course if this lot invested in proper grass fed meat etc then that would make a huge difference in quality, price and animal welfare.


(Chris) #16

10% efficiency from the feed we give them

What if we stopped feeding them garbage and pastured all the cows on grass instead?


(Michael Haisten) #17

Then what would they do with all the corn? Oh yeah, replace fossil fuels.

I hunt and fish for 50% of the protein eaten in my household. Funny thing is it is not considered organic because you can not prove what was eaten, Only farm raised meats can be labeled organic. Well that makes sense!


(Sjur Gjøstein Karevoll) #18

Grass is much worse in terms of efficiency, it’s why we use corn, grains and soy instead. Grass is healthier but production quantity is worse. Our current food production system has by far the lowest cost per calorie ever in human history and I think a major reason our dietary recommendations are so heavily plant based is because to go the other way would spell economic disaster.


(Chris) #19

Forgive my ignorance but every cattle farm I’ve seen where they were pastured there was never a short supply of grass. I always assumed their waste was fertilizing it further.


(Chris) #20

Throw it all in the trash and grow something natural… :slight_smile: