Are Doctors trying to kill us?


#1

After reading a normal blood/glucose should be 90, but was changed to a higher number to accommodate the modern crap diet, I have now read blood pressure has changed too! For someone 60 years old is was not to exceed 140/90, and is now changed to 150/90

I wonder how many other things have changed?


(Leslie) #2

The short answer is no. They need to keep you as sick as possible for as long as possible.
It’s no mystery that the drug companies drive modern medicine.
Doctors are required to adhere to whatever the most modern/recent guidelines are in order to keep their credentials. This is not a hidden fact of life in the medical world.
They are also incentivize by drug companies to write prescriptions. They may deny this but it’s still true.
This is why they won’t consider wholistic treatments or national therapy as real medicine.
Big pharma rules the medical world.
Doctors have their hands tied out of fear
Patients have their lives at risk because they’re being lied to
America is being poisoned by their diet and the drugs used to treat their diet
Break free and teach yourself the truth

Oh yeah, and
Keep calm and keto on


(Stacy Blanchard) #3

I just think most are completely uninformed. My doctor is at least supportive of my antics. I’m planning to try to give him some science he can look at next time I’m in the office. My husband and daughter are all doing LCHF and seeing great progress. I feel like he has to take notice when out weight and lab work comes back significantly improved. It is nice to have an open minded doctor even though he doesn’t really understand what I’m doing. We need more doctors willing to continue learning with the science.


(Rob) #4

It’s nice to think that there is a grand conspiracy when from our side, we KNOW the answers and it seems like the establishment forces are willfully trying to kill us by ignoring such obvious data. Unfortunately, I don’t believe that the parties (for the most part) are either smart enough OR evil enough to pull that off.

The broken nature of the system that binds so many of the pieces together means that the incompetent support the lazy which covers the evil and leaves us where we are. Even Big Pharma, which does evil things now and again, is a product of the system we generally , support, capitalism, which is supposed to get better results, faster. Why should they research things that won’t make them money? As to wanting to keep us sick, as an amorphous industry, that may be true but that’s not generally how things work. It is in the interests of any one company to cure something, make a ton of money at the expense of their competitors and re-invest that in the next cure. The real problem with Pharma is that I really don’t believe that they are smart enough to cure that many things that threaten us today. The easy things have all been done (until antibiotics stop working, which they might soon). They are NOT smart enough to invent drugs to cure things because they are locked into science pathways that probably CANNOT ever cure what they face, no matter how hard they try (and they do try hard). The fact that they aren’t even that good at treating symptoms - cannabis/CBDs are much more effective in managing chronic diseases than billions of $s of drug research - suggests they aren’t half as clever as they think they are.

The doctors won’t change en masse until the standards of care change, which won’t change until there is a ton of new science that can overturn the conventional wisdom which has a ton of inertia. I do hold the disease organizations (AHA, ADA, etc.) very accountable since they should be in the best spot to see the evidence based medicine working across a vast patient base, but due to fear, liability, pride and commercial avarice (donations and certifications) they do little to nothing.

Government is far from blameless but they followed scientists who convinced non-scientist bureaucrats that they were doing the right thing for the people that then got reinforced by agricultural policy that helped farmers, etc. Rarely has ‘trying to help’ harmed so many people. It is hard to move that supertanker around when the scientists are so slow to move themselves.
Anyway, I don’t think anyone is TRYING to kill us… they are just doing an incredible job in unintentionally but ACTUALLY killing us :exploding_head:


#5

BP is the opposite in the UK- they’re stuffing people full of drugs to lower BP even more… 130/80 is what they’re aiming for, crazy! When I was in the ambulance service 20 years ago, systolic was always acceptable if it was 100 + your age, diastolic under 90. We now have elderly people fainting & breaking their hips because their BP drops too low when they stand up, or having kidney failure because of the damage the medications have done… & then there’s statins, there’s another thread about the dangers of those, which are now routinely prescribed regardless of cholesterol levels! Makes you want to :sob: :sob:


(Dan Dan) #6

Are Doctors trying to kill us?

Yes, but slowly :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#7

Then let’s think in this way: if there is really such conspiracy, then those who can earn lots of profit/benefit from keto lifestyle can also do the same thing(conspiracy) to reverse. For example, coconut oil manufacturer, pig farmer. Those two parties would love to make this conspiracy work since the revolution will make them earn, while the current situation will make them lose.(currently, lots of parties are pointing at them as if they are the devils instead)(why did I not mention olive oil party? Because they earn regardless of the situation: olive oil is mono-unsaturated fat, which is basically promoted as a good fat in either way)

Maybe even some people can start to make medicine for the keto type.(since it seems there is a conspiracy in SAD life, why ain’t there somebody to the same for KETO as well?