Anticipation better than the real thing! Huh?

(Trish) #1

Twice I’ve had wine since starting keto Nov. 30; at Xmas two glasses of white and the other night a glass of caramel port. Both occasions I was looking forward to it sooooo much. Both occasions I very much enjoyed the “treat”; however, I didn’t enjoy it as much as I used to when I drank regularly and as I was having it I had this sort of “meh” feeling of I didn’t really need that. Almost like when you break a diet for a fudge brownie and then the brownie wasn’t really that good and you feel ripped off and it wasn’t worth it, except, come on! Caramel port wine…so worth it, but I’m totally confused by my “meh-ness”. I hope this rant makes sense LOL.

(jilliangordona) #2

When I drink wine anymore after a glass I start to feel pretty meh, often my stomach will ache, and even with just a second glass I feel horrible the next day.

I use to drink a bottle of wine BEFORE I went to the bar when I was in college… I am thankful those days are long gone. Now I can barely handle a glass.

(*Rusty* Instagram: @Rustyk61) #3

At 56 years old and being a male, I’m just now discovering how good wine can be. I’ve found a couple of really good zinfandel’s that are amazing. But I always limit myself to 2 glasses.

image
639C5E15-D71D-4B6C-88CA-22DED1F446E5.jpeg3024×4032 2.17 MB

(Trish) #4

I make my own and bottled a batch of moscato and three port wines (raspberry mocha, caramel, and coffee) in November and haven’t had any but the aforementioned occasions. I had no untoward effects at all on either occasion, but was just really intrigued by the discrepancy between the anticipation and the actual drinking considering how much I had been looking forward to it LOL.

(jilliangordona) #5

I need to get I to winemaking… it’s on my list of things to try.

#6

Ditto! Keto has pretty much destroyed my desire to drink. I think once I got my liver used to clean eating/living - it has a lot to say about anything toxic. Mostly I find my tolerance is waaaaaayy down - where before a bottle of wine or several shots were no big deal, now - one or two glasses has me wilting away like a magnolia blossom. :joy:. Still doesn’t make me a cheap date though - because now I make it up with juicy appetizers and the upper end of the menu where the steak and seafood live.

(Dan Dan) #7

I find that less is more enjoyable it’s that way with all food and drink for me now.

I used to have a bottomless pit the more I had the more I enjoyed and was never satisfied. Now every thing tastes richer and I’m satisfied with a fraction of what I used to have.

(Trish) #8

It’s so much more affordable. We have the store do it for us. All I have to do is stir the pot once when prepping it and then go back 5 or 6 weeks later to bottle it which the store has all set up and takes about 20 minutes per batch of 30 bottles.

(Trish) #9

Yes, I’m also full so much faster and struggle many days to eat what would be considered enough, which I guess is okay for the moment since I still have 50 pounds off excess fat to “feed off of.” I think the key is “eat to live” not “live to eat”.

(Brian) #10

Yes, it makes perfect sense.

When we change our way of eating, we often add things to our diet that we now want to take in and subtract from our diet many things we were accustomed to having (mostly carbs & sugars).

Our tastes change! They grow more accustomed to the things we consume all of the time and less inclined towards things we do not. The familiar taste of Mountain Dew with a carbolicious pizza becomes familiar after a few hundred of 'em. But after months of not having said carbolicious pizza and eating your moderate protein and maybe your non-startchy veggies pretty much all the time, that Mountain Dew is gonna taste quite a bit different. It just happens.

And maybe that’s a good thing, at least it is for me. That means that when I have tastes of things I’ve left behind, things I thought were just fantastic as a carb burner, they just don’t taste so wonderful after having been away from them for months.

Hopefully, over time, we develop tastes for things that are good for us, things that are within a good keto diet.

(Trish) #11

OMG I can’t even imagine having a glass of pop now. It would be disgustingly sweet. Oh, I also discovered that Brussels sprouts aren’t half bad LOL?

(Dan Dan) #12

That’s because were now allowed to drown them in Butter or Fat stuff :heart_eyes:

#13

I think that - even changes in taste buds aside - anticipation is always better than the real thing! There’s a funny quote that climbing the staircase toward your lover is always the most exciting moment of an encounter.
[The quote’s better but I can’t find it!]

(Brian) #14

Oh, dear. Someone needs some lessons on what to do when they get there! :confused:

#15

I remember reading somewhere that studies show dopamine is released in higher amounts in anticipation of the pleasure compared to when we actually carry out the pleasure. This isn’t the study I read originally but it’s similar: https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/aug/11/1

I try to remind myself of this whenever I’m fantasizing about a certain food (hope I’m not the only one who does that lol) but I do find that when I’m in ketosis my food fantasies are severely diminished (NSV!!!)

On a related note, I had 3 glasses of wine this past Saturday over a period of 6 hours and even had multiple bottles of water in between and I was hungover until mid-day Monday. In comparison, I used to be able to drink an entire bottle and feel relatively OK the next day. Then I googled and found out hangovers are heightened when in a ketogenic state. LESSON LEARNED!

#16

Couple of things. First wine, especially dry red or champagne, which I realize port or moscato is not, has few carbs so if you want some, you really can have it, but not the sweet wine.

I have started drinking alcohol straight since on keto but rarely, usually only at a wedding etc. Such as vodka with ice and a squeeze of lemon, I have found the opposite, my tolerance has increased. I rarely feel much if any effects either that day or the next. The one time I binged on carbs without any alcohol I felt like I had tied one on.

As for the feeling of carbs not being that great, it seems to depend on the carb. I will sometimes take a bite and spit it out if it does not taste amazing. I found a hershey kiss lying around and figured what would be the harm of one, I could barely eat the one. It was yucky. However, sweet potato fries I made for my kids were quite tasty when I had a couple. Blackberries are still quite good when we get good ones. Same with a tiny taste of some brownies my kids made a few months ago, it was amazing. I wonder if it is mental, I know that I can have a few blackberries, I know I am not supposed to have milk chocolate so unless it is amazing, my brain does not perceive it as tasty

#17

Ha! but the better they are, the better the anticipation :wink:

(Trish) #18

Ya I like my booze straight too, but even then I tend towards the sweeter…grand mariner, wolfhead whiskey, and rusty nails of which the whiskey would be fine but I’m pretty sure the drambuie would be carby lol.

(Chris) #19

Used to be a craft beer enthusiast, then when I got into keto, I got into bourbon, but after a month or two of Keto, my urge to drink just disappeared. Now Ive only drank 2x since thanksgiving, and both times left me just asking why I even put myself through that