In the past few days I have noticed a sudden increase in anti-Keto propaganda on-line. For example, I was watching a keto related video on YouTube and the suggested videos that YouTube presented were a bunch of “keto will kill you” crap. A friend of mine noticed the same thing independently. This seems like some sort of orchestrated campaign. Anyone else seeing this?
Excuse me, I have to go put on my foil hat,.,
YouTube is an echo chamber.
If you search for keto - you will get both positive and negative videos.
If you look at negative/positive keto videos you will get more negative/positive videos.
Google also owns a mail service - if you write to your friend and you search for “keto” a lot - Google might add keto (seemingly randomly) to your friends YouTube results.
It is not really possible to tell if the results are changing because of these types of reasons or a general shift.
It is not foil hat stuff - it is a huge company with lots of data helping you and your friends find things you seem to be looking for anyway.
Agree. i’m used to the targeted ads, etc. based on previous search history, etc. This just seemed like a noticeable shift to the negative side.
Plus people who post videos on YouTube want views. Anything that is popular will therefore attract both positive and negative attention, because it gets clicks/views.
It is very hard to get truly unbiased information from sources who are not profiting in some way from the information being provided.
Google is a failure in my opinion they do a poor job of targeting their users 70% is in no way related to my history or habits.
My experience is the opposite. I am inundated with videos based on my search history. My only criticism is I prefer to watch more videos with contrasting opinions. I am seldom presented videos of an opposing view. I don’t like echo chambers. This is where facebook and google fails dismally in my opinion and why you end up with radical ideologues who can’t or aren’t willing to debate someone with an opposing view. People need to learn how to ‘steelman’ other opinions, rather than ‘strawmanning’.
For a practical demonstration of this recent phenomenon ‘steelmanning’ see members of the IDW (Intellectual dark Web) test it below:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8cP9r-J-sA] - Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris)
One of the problems with this desire is that advertisers want to end up where you seem to want to go (and not end up on pages of contrasting opinions). One of the reasons Google (Alphabet Inc.) got to being worth over 700 billion is because they make these advertisers happy.
It’s everywhere, I ignore it. Same as I ignore most crap circulating online. Whatever the topic, there’s people on both sides circulating their opinions. I only worry about my own opinion.
I get what people are saying about Google, but I have to agree with you. I have alerts set up for both keto and vegan, and the keto alerts are, for the most part, negative and unknowledgeable about the subject. Today, for instance, I read a very insulting piece - the author managed to get “keto” and “nutcase” into the same sentence. Today’s vegan alert, however, claims that “new research” shows veganism is the answer to T2D.
I have gotten to where I get a kick out of google/app’s assumptions of my life based on my searches. My Pinterest is always filled with recommendations about obesity and that new “millennial” diet targeted at more overweight millennials. I am not a millennial, have never been obese, have barely fallen into the overweight category a couple times in my life. I’ve always been in the upper spectrum of normal, more upper than I’m ever happy with lol, but not technically overweight. But Pinterest sure thinks I am. I’m sorry I’m interested in my health lol. It really is just amusing to me.
No, just not interested in anything that doesn’t directly affect my life / wellbeing.
There is a very interesting interview about how YouTube’s intention is to keep you watching videos by using algorithms based on data collected from the huge number of users who have watched the same clips as you. Frequently moving to extremes suggestions to bait you. https://www.wired.com/story/artificial-intelligence-yuval-noah-harari-tristan-harris/
The video takes about five minutes to get into the meat of the argument. But is worryingly fascinating.