Another medical belief bites the dust

(Robin) #1

out of curiosity, I just googled this topic (keto and gallstones) cuz of some weird pain in that area. I already know that my gallstone issues in the past were when I was a (gasp) vegetarian.
And anyway, pain now gone… um, gas. :grimacing:
BUT…Found this cool little nugget.

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#2

A friend may have gallstone, it’s not clear and I googled it… I only found the much fat is bad for it thing…
Very low-fat is another thing, it’s not healthy, we need a little fat at least. I definitely need much.

Sigh. Wonderful. We learn about something new that we knew it totally wrong? But it’s known medicine is full with such things at this point.

#3

Easy rule when you don’t want biased filtered information… don’t use Google.

(Robin) #4

Oh, I know google in garbage out, but sometimes it’s pretty entertaining.

(Marianne) #5

Very interesting finding! If only people/doctors knew what we know.

Just curious - how did you like being a vegetarian?

#6

It’s the quality of the fat as well, higher omega-3’s lite on the omega-6’s. Also not doing a mixed diet which is the term used by the likes of Dr. Bret Sher @DietDoctor. A lot of studies that attempt to debunk the KETO diet or any low carb/high fat diet use the mixed model (50/50) as their version of the low carb/high fat regimen instead of say, 80/10/10.

(Rebecca ) #7

:rofl:

(Mark Rhodes) #8

That is a great misunderstanding of the tissues at hand. The gallbladder holds the bile for fat digestion produced in your liver. If you lose your gallbladder your liver must make bile on demand rather than store it up. When you do not use the gallbladder due to a low fat diet deposits form. The bile is stored and not used. It calcifies and becomes hard deposits. These then clog your gallbladder. No big deal until you begin to eat fats again. Then it is a painful process trying to pump bile around or through vessels clogged by calcified bile.

Now I will say I have little evidence for this. Most papers say it is the presence of too much cholesterol that causes the bile to harden but these is nonsensical. As Dr. Chaffee points out the body has four organs for digesting fats, evolution doesn’t spend that much energy on fat digestion unless its really important. ( Liver, Gallbladder, pancreas and small intestine). I suspect that much like LDL has a immunological function thus being the “ambulances” and doctors blame the “ambulances” at the crash site for the crash, so too it is with bile calcification.

(Robin) #9

I actually loved it, as veggies are my favorite food. Or were. I was at a healthy weight, but worked hard to maintain it. And that’s when I developed diverticulitis and had gall stones.

At the time, I didn’t question my diet. Which is hilarious because now every time I fart, I wonder if it’s the keto/carnivore!
(slight exaggeration for comedic affect, but you get the point.) :wink:

#10

I don’t know anything about gallstones, but…

On the other hand, the NHS also tells diabetics to eat whole grains.

Could it be a bit of confirmation bias when the fact they approve of something makes it so that “another medical belief bites the dust”?

I’m not saying all the NHS says isn’t good. But I’m also not jumping to any conclusions just because they say so.

(Linda) #11

It’s not what the docs don’t know that scares me. It’s the things they “know” that aren’t true.