I did some star running this morning, 80 flights, would have done 20 more but I started belching and felt icky so I stopped to play safe. The feeling soon passed but by that time I had fed the birds , had my meds, done my BP which was strangly very low today and prepped my brew to take outside. Watered the garden, drank the cold coffee and read my books.
Off shopping and ate out in Morrisons . I asked for 2 sides of bacon 2 sides of sausages and a skinny cheeseburger. When the waitress brought it to the table she said the chef felt sorry for my plate and added an extra sausage and rasher of bacon! How lovely was that!, I had forgotten that I had stopped eating cheese for about 3 weeks and when I saw it I didn’t fancy it. I had a tiny bit with the first bite of burger and then popped it to one side of the plate and left it, it tasted awful!
After lunch we walked round the store and I picked up more fish. Shelled mussels, some half shelled mussels, cold water prawns, cockles … none of the were pickled… and some rollmop herrings.
Dinner was rump steak. I had to cook it both sides as I opened pack of 2 yesterday and didn’t want to risk this 2nd one raw. It was nice though and ate it with bacon.
Followed it with one tub of rollmops, only 2 in these tubs and ate both. Then had the rest of the packet of bacon.
I ate after 9pm (I suddenly felt some very subtle hunger and I am super easily tempted when I know I barely ate all day) but only a little and it didn’t trigger a bigger meal, wow. I was careful, the pork was surely tempting I realized that I do love pork chuck roast but I prefer when it’s cold and the fat is more firm. The meat feels too greasy when warm (the fat is lovely then too but not with that meat).
1600 kcal and 120g protein (119 but I can’t track accurately and anyway, I like rounding). It’s creepy that as soon as my 120g protein is up, I am usually fine… I track after I eat and I have many 120g protein days when I only eat until I reach satiation and don’t get hungry again…
And non-carnivore but September is coming and I am very serious. No coffee and everything, how will I do that…
This “lunch and ages later a late meal” isn’t what I like so I go for skipping lunch from now on. Then I may eat once or twice, it will be better than this. But the satiation is quite nice, I am in a nice phase and hopefully it stays with me for loooong.
Hi Shinita, I’ve been reading your posts for about 3 months now and am getting more and more curious about why you want to eat animal products only/carnivore in September?
Just a few minutes here before teaching my last lesson of the day, just want to answer a little. @Fangs Thank you for the wonderful chat, beautiful writing which I have copied - not sure where I’ll paste it but don’t want to lose it. Seems like the bottom line is always be comfortable, don’t push yourself into tough schedules you can’t keep, trust that all will be well, this woe will do its job if you just get out of the way!
Yes. Thank you. For now my first job will be to make sure there’s a lunch packed for Sunday between church and the roadhouse gig. There’s never time - Roadhouse starts at the same time church ends. But hubby keeps saying it too, there has to be rest and there has to be food. He doesn’t think it was the alcohol at all. 1 per hour doesn’t produce drunkenness. Probably what you said - blood pressure. Really I have never experienced that, completely off balance and yet no slurred speech or loss of ability. Just blood pressure? Nervous system crash? But first, food, sleep, and things should stay balanced… literally! Love reading yur story.
@Karen18 Pretty plates! You always get them to bring cool plates with extra sausage, very nice.
I’ll write more later. Time to tune a viola for a lesson!
2nd meal waited til bg was in 90s ate about 15 large shrimp and some goat cheese. That filled me up which was at about noon. Other than that just another coffee and egg yolk.
Multiple reasons. I feel BEST when I keep my non-animal carbs to the minimum. More and I immediately feel a bit off, not bad but still, not my best.
I can’t afford carbs anyway, or extra protein or this much fat… I need to keep all my macros at my comfortable minimum and this is easiest on carnivore.
It’s SIMPLE and chill! And I almost can eat as much eggs and meat as I want! Add anything else and I need to eat less of them and that’s sad.
If I add plant carbs, I change in non-physical ways too. I don’t think I ever have much control over my eating though it seems it changed lately… But with carbs I am a savage. Not that much nowadays but still, I feel urges, I am less satiated and get desires and it results in overeating fat. I need ALL the help to avoid that and feel right. Carni is one help, a tiny eating window is another. They are hard to do together but I will find the way.
I like to train myself too. My ultimate goal is eating whatever I want (I already pretty much do that) while eating ideally for my body and mind.
I suspect carnivore may be the key to get more than lowish energy. There are tiny signs hinting at it. I would make SACRIFICES for more energy! And doing carnivore isn’t a sacrifice, at least not for some weeks. I am fine with an occasional off day as long as it’s worth it.
Tracking is soooo easier with eggs and meat only. Not like I will eat like that all month, I like my dairy but they complicate things and easily trigger overeating fat unless I am very focused but that’s tiring. So I trained myself to consume tiny amounts of them, I have slips but it’s fine occasionally.
Sorry, couldn’t do it shorter, it’s a complex thing.
I can say carnivores totally charmed me 3 years ago and I don’t have the power to resist the pull since I go off a lot, I eat fruits from my garden but I try to stay close and I often actually do it.
Not trying to do carnivore is about as hard as going back to high-carb. Pretty much impossible, I would only do it if I was forced by extreme things.
So it’s not just my decision, I can’t live any other way without extreme hardships. I live on eggs and meat and may add other items, be it a 2g or 150g carb day. And adding items has zillion problems while it rarely makes a good deal. I must maximize my joy, that’s how I function and make decisions, core personality. Adding various carbs bring my net joy down.
And I am serious about it in September because I had more than enough of carbs this year. I so very much need and desire carnivore at this point. I hoped for August but it had multiple very strong fruit seasons and it was hot and I am a different person then… September is waaaaay better. October is out, November will be a carni month again, December is out and January-May will be my big chance to show what I can do! It will be fun and chill and hopefully very successful even with off days here and then.
And after all those times I doubt I will look at fruits the same way as before. 2022 already wasn’t the same as 2021 regarding that.
Fruits are the number one enemy of my carnivore, it’s pretty clear. And most of them doesn’t feel good due to all the sugar. The rest is lovely but the whole is problematic in the sweeter kinds (and I love them all with few exceptions). It’s a tad sad but I think I will make it work with super tiny tastes once in a blue moon… And using the not too sweet ones, my fav fruit is lemon now, too bad it’s not my own.
And of course I can get very much joy from my fruits without eating it. And I can watch my SO enjoying them So it won’t be bad.
Whenever I have an off day, it has a huge chance I won’t like it and wish back to carnivore. It’s a bad idea NOT to try to do carnivore(-ish). Carnivore-ish is still very strict, almost completely carnivore, I wrote about it before, most non-carni items are totally banned, no matter the amount… And it’s fine to go further but I must TRY to stick to the stricter woe so things probably won’t get out of hand. And it’s easier on my mind anyway.
So… I do it because I have to. I am on my mission to become a better, very very great hedonist and it obviously involves doing the best woe for me.
Todays first blood glucose reading was 96 confirming yesterday’s high was the extra food.
And so I’m pleased I didn’t repeat that mistake.
Breakfast I did the same as yesterday one flanken rib and two fried eggs and coffee with egg yolk…
What am I learning? I don’t need all the extra food I was eating. For me, I was obviously over eating for what my body could process… ppl always say listen to your body well mine was obviously still broken because left to my own devices I was gaining weight my blood sugar was heading back to pre diabetic lvls…
so now I’m actually listening to what my body is saying is happening in my blood.
This mornings weigh in i was down 2lbs.
I’m also learning that I don’t need to feel stuffed my meals are alot smaller than they had been but I am not hungry i can still go 5 or 6 hours between my two meals
I’ve learned I can not eat later at night or my blood glucose crosses into pre diabetic lvls by morning…but I can have a coffee with a egg yolk with no issues.
yea it really is on this lifstyle…plus this is not an easy WOE to adapt to cause WE take it ALL out ya know LOL alot of mental games at work here just knowing you are eating one food group only. Takes a strong person to handle this WOE after they find it and take that chance and go in for the cold reality plunge for a total elimination lifestyle like ours!
Chat. Always a good thing. I chatted out so much BS crap in my mind about cravings, triggers, how to get thru holidays and more…I had some big chats with myself too but key being, I get such great support on my forums from others who been there done that and that advice from them to me is priceless. I always follow people who succeed and that advice to me is so valuable ya know. Not all the advice works for each person, but it can put us in a good head space to find our path to make it work best for us.
You eat JJ. Not a darn thing wrong with that and believe me I traveled with a cooler in my car for about 1.5 years til I could get a handle on ‘how to eat out in the world’ or any time I felt I was losing my cooking control thru time schedules and work and more. My cooler was my lifeline. I used that bad boy tons!
the tiny bit of booze ya had just added that extra spark to the already lit fire forget that…it is low salt, low water, possible dehydration and low food intake…all add up to what nailed ya but ya see it, you acknowledge it, you will correct it to how best ya feel you need to and you will have it made in the shade!!!
@FrankoBear, ya know gray ain’t my color, I would rather be depicted as a black and white orca color maybe The worm would then be dessert for me
too funny
big seafood eater earlier on in my zc career. I tell ya, that seafood, fish ya love really really do well for us. also gives us iodine etc. and it is a leaner meal if paired with a bit of fat like your goat cheese. You rock it out AZI! One key thing, if ya ever feel a bit wonky in any way, throw way more fat at yourself. Very big key for us to never drop that protein/fat ratio too low ya know Sounds like you are finding a new you, love it.
------------------was thinking for today mini meatloafs. nah. I just made a lb. of meatballs for family for their spaghetti/meatball meal tonight, instead this is me. 1.82/lbs of greatness. Will definitely eat 1. Might just tackle the other as second me but probably leave for tomorrow. Second meal will be some leftover country pork ribs I need gone and maybe some bacon if I feel like cooking it.
You know I think about this way of life and to me it is never limiting. I am Carnivore. Simple as that. I find my options in my food realm so widely wonderful. All hoof, all ocean, all rivers/lakes, all flying in the sky or non-fly fowl too of course So much, so good, so healing!
I find I limit me. The wallet has a little to do with it cause I would be all over lobster and crab on every darn meal but that ain’t happening but I also find so many limit themselves cause we narrow our taste down alot…and this is a good thing or a ‘maybe restricting not good thing’ and that can depend on the person.
I hit ribeyes. Like 2 yrs I ate ribeyes every day. Or maybe other steak like a NY or ? but a beef steak it was. I thrived on it. Then I hit pork more and thrived. But when I started I was ALL stuff, all the time, and more narrow you go with time on plan…but if one is fine with it, body healing great, loves their food all the time ya got it made. Some fight it. I get it. I fought it also but OPEN THE BRAIN again carnivores…there is SO MUCH to enjoy truly out there for us!!! We can only be a wide open and wonderful and happy as we allow ourselves to be! ZC ZEN!
When we start we focus on our food. Yea, eating change, we need to do just that…as we heal, repair and get off that darn dieting idiocy out there we feel so much better, all the good benefits come in time to us, but we also do another thing, we start to ‘kinda forget about our food’…again, good or bad in a ways? Remember it is great to never be hungry, go without and easily do that, feel we are not controlled by food anymore, oh yea I loved that one! and more but we also have to remember, we count ya know. WE deserve to eat well! We deserve our time to relax, calm down, enjoy a darn good meal when we eat so as much as this lifestyle takes us WAY off the diet nightmare path, we do have to remember to also enjoy it!! Don’t make it a fight. Don’t make it a task. Don’t make it a thing to conquer? There is no conquer here, there is eat well, eat what ya love and enjoy, embrace your zc food and inhale it, wipe that grease off your face , savor every bite and say a big MMMmmmmmm after and then say, damn I eat so well and feel great and I deserve this lifestyle of health and well being and menu controlled without crazy diet crap thrown in!
OK just ramblin’ cause I sure feel all that greatness to me from ZC!
from ZC to ME! yup I am a poet and don’t even know it!
Into Surf/Turf-tember we go full speed ahead. I am looking forward to a new month and new me!
and here is the 1.82/lbs of greatness targeted by me today LOL
The tinned herring (not carnivore enough for my September but I fancy fish lately as you know so I had one minus a little piece for Alvaro later, he showed some interest) wasn’t as great as I remembered. The herring was nice but the sauce, while not being sweet, wasn’t. Mostly some watery oil, barely any tomatoes, that’s why it’s so low-carb and not sweet. A bit disappointing but it’s still nice to eat fish. I just don’t see good options for me Maybe I buy hake again and figure out how to add spices to be tasty as it’s quite neutral/tasteless to begin with… But it’s fish with its lovely texture… And it does have some taste just tiny all alone…
I will experiment.
I had lunch, I helped out Alvaro with his food… So this was one of my old favs, made very well this time (last time we couldn’t buy a good smoked cheese and other things were missing as well)…? I just ate it, no big deal. Pork is WAY better (but more expensive. certain plants are just unbeatably cheap. BUT we need to add things and I never ever could eat a lot from the very few protein rich plants. I can get satiated by meat and some eggs every day, apparently). I find almost everything non-carni like this nowadays. I am in the best moment to have a carnivore month.
And I have serious plans for my life too (since ages but now I feel unusually determined) and it helps to get serious about the eating part of my life.
I had eggs, I had sausage… And now I kind of miss proper meat…? Maybe I am just not satiated but I ate my food.
It’s probably best to have some pork for dinner. And tomorrow is September and it’s exciting! Experiments!
I admit I used the non-carni day to make one of my fav things. The original was named marshmallow, it’s mostly egg whites and gelatin, I obviously put yolks into it… But it’s almost carnivore, I just need to make it savory. I eat it for the texture at this point, I don’t need it as a dessert let alone a sweet one (it would be interesting to try unsweetened with flavorings for sweet stuff like vanilla and lemon… but I am afraid it wouldn’t be good enough).
So my next idea is making Alvaro’s beloved cheesy egg puffs like this, with gelatin instead of baking. What could possibly go wrong? I can even put sausage slices into it…
This is perfect for me as I wrote multiple times: I can be super simple (tossing some meat into the oven, frying/boiling some eggs and voila! complete menu for a few days at least. if I am in such a simple phase) and I still get satisated and hopefully satisfied - but sometimes I can play with more complicated and often somewhat new recipes. So I will do that.
@Fangs, some of your comments are even more inspired and enthusiastic than others, this one was a joy to read!
And nice meat. I try not to be envious now. I love my pork but beef has some extra talent at being extremely pretty. That raw red color… And marbling is a joy, be it beef or pork. And extra fat layers here and there. Yum.
(I probably won’t have 5 hours between my meals today. I miss my pork. I was separated from it last night by my own will and the freezer door… I was content with a tiny egg+sausage dinner and the fridge is a dangerous place, I eat up all the meat there too quickly, I suspect even without a real need… The freezer is another world, I need a reason to get out something from a box there.)
I tried to do my workout again. I am weak as a kitten again. I must change that too. I don’t even have proper stamina but nice weather comes and I got back my plan about running every day, a tiny bit at least!
I love that raw red draw also S and I get ya on that wanna eat that blood in that meat as we see it LOL
but I gotta tell ya I am a massive pork fan and do well on it so that pork which is SO less colorful but has that big ol’ white fat cap on it to me is priceless. Without pork in my zc days I know it would be a hard go.
you eat up all that lovely pork S!
what’s doing? why so weak? is something going down I missed about this other than your coughing but you are now ok on all that crud ya had? just wondering what is doing for ya!
Finally a day off! And, it is the kind of weather that just cannot be beat. Low 70’s. Sunny, Blue sky. breeze. Going to do some outdoors work around the edge of the house.
Company starts arriving Friday, but hubby will have to deal with that since I’ll be at work until 930-10pm.
Lots of stress right now, which does not bode well in the fight to get rid of belly fat. Been quite strict with eats. Eggs, bacon, beef, butter, a little chicken, and HWC in the coffee. Thinking that by tightening up the eats that the oxylate dump is happening. Either that, or the daily workouts are getting to me. Or, a combination of both. Either way, the mental focus is there now- which is huge. Continually reminding myself that the pain is a good thing, since it can only be from those 2 things.
Outside last evening after work, feeding the cows apples that had fallen off one of the big trees - and the two bulls got into a skirmish. The muted thunder sound when they smash heads, coupled with their muscular physique as they re-position and clash …really quite a majestic scene. Majestic animals that produce majestic meat. Love it.
well, best get off the rocker and get after it. Lots to do. Have a good day, all and be blessed.
Hahaha i didn’t ask for extra and i didn’t grumble for paying full price, I guess the chef just felt pity on my plate looking like not very much for what I paid lol. I would have done the same if I was the chef but some people can be quite resilient against any form of guilt complex … luck of the draw I guess. I am learning to be nice, be kind, not to moan and just be all round pleasant … oh and smile! People won’t recognise me
Oh nothing special, I just have this sometimes when my workouts don’t happen 2 per week… I skipped some weeks due to my sickness and holiday and I didn’t get the hang again. I should have already but sometimes I start too late and I am already hungry, this hot weather (now it’s less hot but HUMID! it’s horrible, not refreshing at all, I was in the garden as I needed fresh air but it’s not fresh!) surely doesn’t help things either…
I still can do my workout but with less reps, sometimes with smaller weights than before
I want back those times when I progressed nicely (after several months of super slow improvement)! I am still a weak and not muscular one, I should get better quicker!
So I try to get my stuff together. It’s not just about muscles, sometimes I get winded (by lifting a not even heavy barbell a few times!!!) too soon or just lose spirit…
I am healthy now (the ugly morning voice lasted soooo long but finally I lost that too), I just feel a zombie on some days. Like today. It’s some “before rain” weather since hours, probably won’t bring rain but I feel the pressure and it doesn’t feel good being outside. Fortunately I had my bigger walk in the morning, that was okay.
I am a bit sensitive to weather. Nothing major, I don’t get headaches or other pain but my already not stellar energy level drops and I miss my refreshing time outside. Even if it was half a day. One walk a day is little, I need at least some garden time but not like this.
I am whining but it’s bad! I am useless, it hit very hard today.
I had my dinner at a proper time (desire towards pork helped :D), 5 hour eating window. I hope I will be satiated until tomorrow mid-afternoon at least. I have pork butts (I think. the stuff sold as “thigh” here) and pork chuck, ready to eat so it will be easy. And I make sponge cakes again ~ And I will write my goals, I have many this time.
I start with meat (pork now) and eggs only, I ate up my little sour cream at dinner and even the tiny beef+pork skin spread I bought (ah. so 6g carbs and 1.6g sugar means it will taste like starch… makes sense. never again. I totally didn’t look at the carb content when I bought it. it’s important for such kind of stuff though. but I just forget about it all and make everything from fresh meat. maybe I keep sardines if I will like them. it’s super low-carb though it has sunflower oil… sigh. oh well I will buy frozen hake, that’s cheaper and only fish. it was one of my best idea to get rid of processed stuff when I went low-carb, the few items I added later usually were disappointing. I keep my processed pork, that is useful. I had some dry sausage slices with my sponge cakes today as well and it was lovely. and smoked pork belly is lovely).
Oh, Teresa (our major grape as it’s wonderful, plentiful and resistant to diseases. and a great climber, even the top of our thuja has grapes now) started its season 1.5 months earlier where it got much sunlight… What. But I don’t care, I had 3 months packed with fruit seasons and it was too much even though I had plenty of almost fruitless days.
NOTHING can stop me now.
Not talking about carbs is actually one of my goal for September but I only expect a diminished amount, not zero. I can not eat my lovelies but never mentioning them…? But I will try.
Today the radio has some vegan propaganda… I am totally tolerant until some points but they used everything including talking about horrible videos about poor animals (I am against animal cruelty but it’s still not an argument I would use suddenly in a radio talk about the right diet of pregnant women… things got escalated quickly there), climate change vs cows and a vegan lasagna where even poor pasta is replaced by cucchini (never was into veggie “pasta”, sorry) and the lentil ragou made it tasting “almost like meat”. Nope. It’s nothing like meat. I actually have the least problem with legumes from the plants as they have flavor and protein BUT they aren’t even remotely resembling meat, it’s such a stupid thing to say, we aren’t all taste blind!
And I don’t get the obsession to try to make things being like something else even if it’s clearly impossible… Eggs are nothing like meat even if made into a stew and it’s fine. Nothing is like meat, only meat. And black salt and turmeric doesn’t convert… what is it, chickpea?.. into eggs… But some vegans just must make eggless scrambled eggs and meringue and sponge cake. Life isn’t right without those. And I did my strange things in my life, it’s just wondering as it seems so weird to me. They have THOUSANDS of items to use, why they want to imitate eggs and meat, two of the many things that is impossible to?
Why I always get so obsessed with thinking about these? It never will get resolved.
Yay, se ya tomorrow when I will have actual right to be here! (Well, in the next thread.)
I will be simple like crazy*! I start with 2 items. Or maybe one, that will be my first time to do it!
*Though I can overcomplicate eggs to some extent. But I won’t in the beginning.
My mood definitely improved writing here. Even if it just fueled my food obsession but it’s an exciting time!
Somethings going on in this body of mine. 2 days of intense lower abdominal pain, sharp and gripey and feeling like I have really bad diarrhoea and any minute now I’ll need to rush to the toilet, except I don’t have diarrhoea. Terrible sleep last night, waking every 30-60 minutes. Come 4am the body aches all over started, temperature 38 degrees celcius (100.4 F). It’s weird, I never get sick.
Being sick aside, my body very rarely feels an ok place to inhabit and I’m tired of it. Mostly very low energy and constant low to medium grade pain. Low to medium grade is an improvement on what it was, before this woe tho. I just wish I had more energy.
Yup, definitely feeling down at the moment. Too much stress in my life right now too. Tapering off my anti-depressant isn’t helping. Venlafaxine can be really rough to withdraw from.
.oh you poor thing… do you think you may have some food poisoning.? That usually puts the temp up and causes abdominal pain. Whatever it is I do hope you get through to the other side very soon xx
Well I almost don’t want to say anything for fear of putting the mockers on it but for past few days sleep has improved to a degree or 2! Even last night with work looming this morning.
No pressures at work and I just keep reminding myself its me who puts pressure on me and reminding myself not to do it lol
Brunch was usual reheated chick n butter about 11.30am, it was thigh for a nice change but not a lot of it and wasn’t sure it would hold me till I got home but as that’s all I take in it had to do lol.
Home by 2.45pm and at 3.15pm had the packet of half shelled mussels I bought yesterday and they were so tender and delish.
Then at 5.15 I half fried a rump steak and ate with some goats butter followed by 2 beef burgers with same butter cos I was still a bit hungry. About 7pm I had a few cockles.
I realized that I do love pork chuck roast but I prefer when it’s cold and the fat is more firm. The meat feels too greasy when warm (the fat is lovely then too but not with that meat).
I go off a lot, I eat fruits from my garden but I try to stay close and I often actually do it.
The worm would then be dessert for me 
Maybe I buy hake again and figure out how to add spices to be tasty as it’s quite neutral/tasteless to begin with… But it’s fish with its lovely texture… And it does have some taste just tiny all alone…
