Allulose - blood glucose?

(Bob M) #21

@Saphire Way back then I was trying some chocolate that had maltitol in it, I didn’t know the effects of that stuff or even what it was. I got hammered by maltitol. I don’t like it.

I think I have a somewhat similar reaction to Erythritol, though not to the same extent. I have not found a similar reaction for allulose.

Stress and the like, I don’t know enough about. I know this becomes very hormone-related, and I there are so many hormones, each with different effects. I’m convinced that I have issues with hormones, as I can go home not being hungry, but then I’ll eat something small, then eat more, then eat more…until I’ve eaten a normal meal. Start off not hungry, get hungrier. I’m assuming this is hormones, but I don’t know which ones.

#22

Wow! So many replies! I did see the YT video by Dom as well and I found it interesting. I think he eats low carb or possibly Ketogenically, but I don’t know for sure. He didn’t indicate any low blood glucose issues when eating that much Allulose.

Has anyone seen any discussion on how using Allulose in low carb/Keto recipes affects those of us who have been eating this way for a long time? I wonder if eating a lot of Allulose at once would reduce the glucose the body makes in the liver. It seems to have made my glucose go down when I used a teaspoon in my tea (not a measuring spoon, but one from a table setting). That could have been an insulin response, though.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #23

Amazon used to sell a five-pound bag of sugar-free Haribo Gummi Bears sweetened with maltitol. They closed the reviews section years ago, but left it up for a long time. I wonder if it’s still there.

Anyway, the reviews of the effects of the maltitol on purchasers were hysterically funny.

(KM) #24

My hubs just bought a 3 pound bag of maltitol gummies. … not so hysterically funny from here, we only have one bathroom. :laughing:

#25

Here is one

This is one of the reasons cutting off eating at 5 works so well for me. When I don’t I will have a normal meal then assuming I am home and not actively busy, I will start prowling the kitchen for something to eat. Even if all I eat are eggs and nuts, the next day I will feel heavier. In contrast, when I used to fast, I could go days without eating. I remember someone pointing out a long time ago that an appetizer is called that for a reason, a small amount will stimulate your appetite

I realized eating was hormonal many years ago. When I was pregnant with my second, I was already overweight before the pregnancy (not really with my first and that one was not the same). I gradually lost my appetite. I would eat when I was hungry but when we went to a celebration, normally I would be thinking about when it was PC to grab a second or third slice of cake. During the pregnancy, I would forget to have dessert. All of sudden it was time to go and I did not care. I had a co worker who was the opposite. She is a size 0 and for each pregnancy she gained 50 lbs and would eat everything in sight. In the delivery room her appetite went away

I guess my question, is there a benefit to allulose in general? Should I make an effort to have some even if I really do not want the sweetener. Also when I looked at the carb count, it has the same number of carbs as sugar. Not sure I get it

(Bob M) #26

@Saphire They said that the amount of calories/carbs is really low because of how the body processes it.

I did not eat much at all that was sweet for a very long time. Then I started eating some chocolate at night (real chocolate). This is one reason I figured out that Erythitrol-sweetened chocolate chips made me feel bad. Eat dark chocolate, I’m ok; eat Erythitrol-sweetened chocolate chips, I’m not.

Then my wife wanted to do some Maria Emmerich PSMF stuff, which helped get her to her lowest weight in a long time. She was making some puddings and some “donuts” that were basically egg whites and protein for the “donut” part, then chocolate with allulose added.

So, I started eating some of these and found them useful. A slight sweetness that’s also somewhat filling. And high protein, if you’re into that.

@GreeneggsNham That’s a great question about how it would affect people who have been low carb/keto a long time. I tried berberine, which has a really good reputation. It killed me, causing me to yell at my wife, and I think gave me low blood sugar (though I only tested a few times). I gave up taking it.

I have not had issues, but I also run higher blood sugar now (I think due to a drug I’m on, but since I can’t go off the drug, it’s hard to test). And I’m not eating a lot of it. Small amounts on “donuts” and small amounts in a pudding.

We’re going to start using it for our kids. I plan on making some ice cream, and see what else I can make that they’ll eat.

#27

When I make recipes with sugar alternatives, I sometimes will put 1/4 cup or more in the recipe. While I do not eat the whole thing, often it is only 3 or 4 servings or fewer. That is a lot more than a teaspoon which on my package of Allulose is 3 grams of carbohydrate. If I am eating the equivalent of two tablespoons in my recipe that is quite a lot?

(Bob M) #29

That, I don’t know. When they said it wasn’t processed the same, they didn’t go into what they meant.

I also use more allulose than for other fake sugars. Supposedly, it’s only 70% the sweetness of sugar.

One option is to use something like liquid sweetener. I can’t remember what we use (liquid stevia?), but I will usually add some of that to cut down on the amount of allulose I’m using.

Whoa, it’s confusing. See this:

Says it has carbs, but 70% is peed out. They say that it doesn’t raise blood sugar. Yet, the calorie count includes a carb count (4g) per teaspoon. Not sure how to interpret this.

(Bob M) #30

This implies allulose should be counted as zero carbs:

If you care about carb intake, then I’m not sure what to say.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #31

Say: “At least half the grams of allulose you consume count toward your carb limit.” If it’s not quite accurate, then it is at least erring on the side of safety.

(B Creighton) #32

I’ve heard that a university recently patented a new process for making allulose which will make it much cheaper… so you may not want to stock up on allulose just yet. I have been paying around $6/lb for it, but we can hopefully expect that to fall by next year.

(Bob M) #33

So, in my experiments with allulose, it does appear to cause me to be less hungry, sometimes significantly so. For lunch, I had some chocolate that I made, and finished them (my goal was to finish them). Was not hungry at dinner. Multiple mornings after eating things with allulose, and I’m not hungry for a long time. (I’m not one of those people who “forget” to eat because they aren’t hungry; I’m usually hungry by 10 am). Today, I was still hungry, but I also exercised in the morning.

It does cause some stomach/digestive issues, I think, but it’s hard to pin down. We made a peanut topped by chocolate dessert from Maria Emmerich’s book about cooking for children. (Unfortunately, only 1 of 2 kids liked it. Both adults liked it though.) The only time in the last decade I’ve eaten peanuts is when we go to 5 Guys (a burger place, where you can order a burger served in lettuce, and they have boxes of peanuts to eat). I had some stomach/digestive issues, but I also ate quite a few peanuts. Oh, and both layers used coconut oil as a large ingredient. The peanut layer used peanut butter too. So, I have peanuts + coconut oil + allulose. Which one (or combination?) caused the minor issues I had? Hard to say.

But I do think allulose has some anti-hunger effects. I don’t know about dosing (how much allulose do I need to get this effect?) or length of time (how long the affect lasts).

#34

I made some caramel candies out of Allulose, covered by Lilly’s chocolate melted with cocoa butter to make it a bit firmer. They turned out very well. These were for my daughter-in-law who is going, at least low carb, if not Keto. She loves them. I, of course, had to sample them and found that when I have some digestive issues when I consume much of it. But I do like the taste of it.

(Bob M) #35

There is definitely a limit to allulose, in terms of causing digestive issues, though I wonder if it changes depending on what it’s in?

I’ve made ice cream, tembleque, and the peanut/chocolate “bar” (what I’d call it, as you can cut it into bars) recipes.

A true test would be making these with allulose then with something else and comparing them. That would take way too much effort though.

But I had some of these last night, and this morning, I’m totally not hungry. At all. Even though I worked out this morning. Did have too much, though, and had to visit the bathroom at night.

(Bob M) #36

Listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2XrIteKMw

Dr. Bikman again. Says that allulose can lower glucagon (which raises blood sugar). He thinks it is a reason T1 diabetics find it easier to dose when using allulose, as their blood sugar doesn’t go up as much.

Also, allulose could cause delayed gastric emptying.

Allulose may activate an enzyme called AMPK, which helps to pull out glucose at the muscle level. May decrease gluconeogenesis (where the liver makes blood sugar).

Helps insulin resistance because it turns on AMPK.

Fructose is directly converted to fat in the liver. The AMPK promotes fat oxidation in the liver.

Allulose might be protective of mitochondria.

They get into ketones and brain health.

#37

Thanks Bob! Ill have to watch this video. I may have already seen it, but not given it enough attention. If Allulose decreases gluconeogenesis, I wonder how that affects those of us who follow a Keto diet. Slowing down gastric emptying, then, keeps us feeling full longer, affecting our sense of satiety. Interesting stuff.

(Bob M) #38

It is interesting. I’ve been drinking raw milk for “lunch” (my first meal), and I put collagen peptides in there. Today, I put a teaspoon of allulose there to see what happens.

This weekend, I’m going to try to make some “milk” chocolate (or at least less dark than I made last time) with allulose, if I can figure out how. I’d rather eat a few pieces of this for lunch than a hit of allulose in milk, and I’d like to see if I could get my kids to eat it as a lunch item.

And if I can weigh everything, I could get a reasonable estimate of how much we’re eating.

I’ll experiment more and see what happens.

#39

I’d love to hear your results!