Fully read back. Phew.
Fancy beef that I never buy is maybe $30/kg (on sale, at least) when changed the currency (USD even though I use kg now). Of course upper limits must be high but significantly more expensive meats are game, not domesticated ruminants or one needs to go to some special shop, maybe? Whatever, I rarely look at that.
All beef organ from the nearby beef farm is $2/kg, it’s so awesome as I love beef organs 
Hey, chicken-kept-in-a-cage liver is usually way more expensive! Do people dislike organs? But it’s Hungary, we eat organs…
My beloved (though simple supermarket) pork is still $4/kg if I choose well very I buy it (but it’s on sale all the time anyway. not all cuts and not in all supermarkets but it’s good enough). And we still didn’t ask the pig farm again after our comment got lost… That must be pricier but tastier… One hypermarket has farm pork, allegedly, that’s a bit pricier but not much.
And turkey is below, I should buy a lot from the only supermarket chain that hates turkey and throw it at everyone for cheap so often Once I bought turkey wings for $1/kg but that was an insane occurance. But they go well below $2 still I am sure. Even the village shop barely went higher with it and it tasted great and even satiated me so I want to eat more turkey now (I would have liked to do it before but turkey availability - especially in a meat counter so I don’t buy a TON of plastic for a little meat - isn’t so great. it’s common but not that common. well the usual supermarkets has no meat counter at all and it’s so tiring to visit 6 shops per city visit, I get exhausted. but I will buy a big amount of turkey wings next time!).
So, yep, I don’t fully get why poor people don’t eat mostly meat.
Prices SURELY will shoot up though. Our currency got way, way weaker in the last months. But I only noticed unusually big inflation of the veg prices this far. Alvaro mentioned grains too.
I try not to think about prices in the near future.
Apropos turkey, I keep pouring water on poor bones (and pork cubes) as I love my soup and the bones just keep providing The chewy cat food parts became more tender and I got pretty much meat off the bones, I wouldn’t have think that, I carved them well enough before or so it seemed.
But this will be the last batch today. I am so happy about the turkey. I didn’t really like my chicken soups just like I find turkey delicious and chicken not good at all (the cheap badly raised kind but the good one is more expensive than my pork, no thanks, I don’t even like good chicken so much, once in a blue moon is enough).
I still eat some chocolate here and there, mostly for “something else” I suppose. I lost my real interest and joy in it in the beginning of my carnivore trials so I eat grams now. From my homemade unsweetened chocolate. Goes okay with my unsweetened coffee… But I probably will completely stop. I don’t try to speed it up as it’s insignificant and harmless.
I actually thought I switch from coffee to cocoa, anything to stop this coffee addiction, going off from cocoa should be nothing afterwards. Never tried it though. Cocoa is mostly for the times when I run out of coffee, that’s a few days per year. I can drink unsweetened cocoa now but it’s not that great. Not like coffee is that great (except now that I have cream but I only had one today due to feeling miserable with my sprained ankles and other problems. it’s only noon though and I usually drink coffee way later now. at least I stopped my morning coffee drinking, I never did that just somewhat recently when my coffee addiction went up… but I put up some fight since November and now I am even more serious so I very rarely drink coffee before noon. even drinking it after 1am is more frequent and I usually don’t do that either).
You have so crazy sales there! Here only beef leg goes on sale and it’s but a tiny reduction… For pork and chicken/turkey it’s more significant but still only like… 20%? And these are the big sales, supermarkets here sometimes do these insignificant sales with a few percents…
Then we have the -50% sales for the meat at its expiration date (maybe it has 1 day left)… It worked when I tried it… But it’s only for one hypermarket we don’t visit every month and I think it doesn’t even have it all the time or not for the meats I like.
We never grilled. But that’s not such a big thing here anyway. Well maybe now due to Western influences…? I do see lots of ads… But when I was a kid, we just cooked on open fire and roasted pork belly too, that was a basic thing to do, everyone did that activity often. (Probably not the vegetarians. Did we have vegetarians? Oh yes I was one after I turned 17… And I always found that stuff too fatty but it was company and fire and smoke and everything… I want to do it again but I will choose the meatiest slab I can find and even cut off some fat for other reasons.)
It’s pretty fun at the kitchen table sometimes… Alvaro is eating, a cat in his lap and the cat smells the meat and does her best to get on the table but of course she can’t because Alvaro can stop her with one hand… I can’t explain the sight but it’s quite fun.
The usual cat food we buy disappeared from the supermarket, we couldn’t find it since quite a few weeks (it’s good we hoard food as we go shopping rarely and it’s nice to be safe. but we almost run out of it now).
I expect it coming back with an 50% higher price, actually…
We bought a little from another brand but the cats disliked it. They are like me and my coffees, all may be kinda cheap but one I love and the other not. Today I use the bitter kind (super cheap, I couldn’t resist and it’s not a necessity, I do what I can to keep my consumption low now) as cream makes it okay. But I can’t drink it black, not even super weak as I drink coffee.
@Karen18: Wow, you did the transition quick! And seems to work for you so well too… Lucky girl 
I spent years on low-carb before keto, years on/off keto before trying carnivore… I felt I needed the time. Only my high-carb -> low-carb change (when I stopped eating added sugar, grains, potatoes, dry legumes and lactose) was effortless, I only felt benefits, no problem. Well I needed many new recipes so there was that hardship but I enjoyed the changes.
Low-carb -> vegetarian keto was trickier, no benefits due to too much carbs I suppose, it was fine but still a bit restrictive (I missed my vegs)… That’s why I did the on/off thing, I felt lower-carb is good for me but I actually had no benefits when I was in ketosis, it just was harder to do.
And carnivore(-ish) has great prons and I never can do it for long due to food boredom so it’s still work in progress. I would be fine with some ketovore if that would work well but nope. Extreme low-carb as basic attitude seems to be best. But then I get bored. But if I add some carbier keto food all the time, it’s worse.
And I still have a bond with my sweet desserts though I don’t really desire them, just can eat them when I am bored of everything else (and rather they than some carby food that I don’t even enjoy or want but it’s “something else”). So it’s a chaotic struggle but I have enough good days so I don’t feel it too bad.
I envy your goal, my goals (whatever they are, I didn’t think about it much so I suppose the usual, sticking to something close to carni, losing fat, feeling good) are more challenging Great goal by the way, I just think it has a quite high chance to happen so it’s easy
I can understand, it looks STUNNING! I never saw such a beauty in LIDL…
But I want primroses now anyway. I regretted not buying some when it was in front on me on a huge sale… By the way when my ankle gets better, I must check out the zillion yellow ones in the nearby forest!
It’s very dependent on the actual food choices (and how much one needs, to some extent)… Carnivore may be way cheaper or way more expensive, tastes matter a lot here. But in general, maybe you are right. Probably depends on the country too…
I couldn’t afford eating ruminants (not even the cheapest cuts except organs but one can’t live on organs, even getting enough would be hard) using the same money I can buy a pretty much overeating super delicious, no-boredom carbier woe with, even if that’s low-carb with pricey sweeteners galore. But pork and turkey and eggs? Cheap. (And my carbier woe would contain almost as much of them… Cutting out carbs is pure win.)
I fear I never will learn what these mean… It’s pretty complicated and we have nothing called like this (it’s possible they have a translation and it’s more possible we just cut the animals differently). I am glad if I get more knowledgeable about the Hungarian names, there are some tiny special things (well that’s pork but still) never sold separately but they are written on the chop package…
@KetoKoala said the same too, meat being more expensive than vegs (and looking at the Aussie prices, I can understand) - but they actually can’t be compared at all.
Protein sources are usually more expensive. And if I would eat more vegs, I would need more animal food too to balance out the extra hunger I got from them… So they are the most expensive for me, pure money waste.
Normal people like Alvaro (okay he is thriving on HCHF so maybe he isn’t normal, whatever) don’t have that but still, vegs are so very pricy here… Well it depends. Split pea is the cheapest protein source I think… Once I calculated it vs chicken frame but what should I look at, protein or calories…? But the low-carb vegs are super expensive per calories or protein. But probably precious for volume eaters and veggie lovers. So I just can’t compare them at all. Even when I ate lots of vegs, it wasn’t really food. Proper, satiating food. Never. Alvaro can’t use them like that either as they are too low-cal. They are just some extra? And joy?
It’s probably still below $2/kg here but less than a year ago it was below $1/kg on the best sales! Then it almost doubled at some point, it wasn’t recently…
I checked a supermarket chain. $1.72. That’s a great price now. Turkey is worth it zillion times more though.
I STILL need to rewrite something in my brain. I knew meat isn’t expensive but I still instinctively tried to eat as many eggs as possible and be careful with meat… Part of it is the availability, it was way easier to get eggs but now I know even the nearby shops are okay. (And I still need to focus on eggs first lest I get bored of meat. It’s so hard sometimes.)
Well the hens are better raised than the animals I eat… I try not to care about that as I am poor and must eat properly but it’s surely there somewhere. Burden on the planet is complicated but overeating due to the wrong diet is surely the most wasteful and my health has high priority…
I hope I can do it better in the future.
Wow, @Fangs, those prices went up like crazy! I really don’t get why ours are that stable even now.
I don’t want to eat lobsters 
I follow Leon on YT He’s (okay, not sure about the gender but he doesn’t mind) a rescued lobster, guy bought him at the supermarket with bound claws, put him into an aquarium, later he got a bigger one… Experiments and everything were done and the videos are popular and very calm and enjoyable. Leon is a beauty! Lobsters tend to be.
I haven’t that “oh this is cute I don’t eat its species anymore” thing, I eat very smart and playful lovely pigs (one of my fav animals) but giving up the idea of ever eating lobsters is nothing to me. And I could buy so much perfect home-raised pork with that money I like experience but we can’t experience everything.
And now the new post…
I just want to say I call not eating fasting even if it’s natural… I never ever forced it. I planned longer fasts a few times but if I get proper urges to eat, I eat. But normally I just know I won’t get hungry until 3-6pm anyway… But sometimes I do and then I eat when it’s more than a borderline passing hunger that doesn’t bother me. I know eating too early will ruin my day to some extent - but hunger is hunger so what can I do? I just don’t eat without a good reason when it’s early.
So, about fasting. I am sure there is the big personal factor. 16, sometimes 24 hours without food is what always came naturally to me (well after I wasn’t tiny anymore, at least), no matter my woe. I can’t go above 24 hours anymore and it took effort on keto/low-carb, only came naturally on high-carb. No wonder, I ate huge meals there.
So no matter the woe, some people just need (or can consume) big meals that last for a day.
But extreme low-carb often turns off my hunger anyway, not completely but very close. And when I am well-fasted, the mere lack of perfect satiation isn’t enough for me to eat (that’s my night problem).
I have this with my usual 65% fat. But works with my new 60% too. More fat actually makes me hungrier I think as my calories always go up then… But I should try it with OMAD. No wonder I eat too much if I have 2 not super close meals and very fatty meat.
I don’t have a high enough energy need for 2:1 yet. And I like my leaner approach now. But one day I will experiment. I like my more natural experiments when I use my actual style to figure out things, not trying to go for something not so convenient at the moment.
I am into whipped egg whites (usually with yolks but less than whites) and leaner pork now so I do leaner experiments
. I really have to get used to that smell… She’s phenomenal, lost about 200 lbs a couple years ago and has gotten out of her wheelchair permanently with aggressive physical therapy (drs say her backbone is too damaged for surgery.) Her husband left last fall and she quickly engineered her own divorce for free and is seeing a wonderful man now, and having a great time.
but back in the day I would be her for sure!! Nice pic!!
off to find out what I come home with LOL