ADF vs OMAD - I’m struggling


(Robin) #21

Or… heading for your comfort zone! Elevators in a cozy warm house. :wink:


What would the world be like without sarcasm? :thinking:

(Robin) #23

We’ll never know!


I get out of my comfort zone sometimes and I should do it more indeed, I am working on it.
(And I know it’s totally not the point but I go out when it’s cold. I stay indoors when it’s hot. My activity suffers in summer but sometimes I go out even then. But yep, I go out only in good weather and I don’t plan to change that much… If it works, why to embrace ascetism instead of my natural hedonism? :smiley: My inner hedonist runs the show, I should be realistic…)

But I listen to my body and try to give it what it wants and I know it’s the best I can do.
Thirst means I should drink. Hunger means I should eat. It’s quite simple to me…

(KCKO, KCFO) #25

And I don’t want to know.

(Allie) #26

Fasting for religious reasons is a completely different issue to fasting for health reasons, they really cannot be compared.


Why? The motive is irrelevant but the physiological outcome is the same.

(Allie) #28

It’s not an optional thing when done for religious reasons, the people doing it have to continue despite feeling bad (and yes, I have seen them struggling). The reasons are completely different.


We will have to agree to disagree on this one. On such topics, I am normally reluctant to draw correlations and rely more on clinical evidence. And choosing the subject of religion was an equally poor lack of judgement on my behalf.

(Take time to smell the bacon) #30

For an excellent description of fasting as a religious practice, read A Celebration of Discipline, by Richard Foster. I think you’ll find it fascinating.

As Allie mentions, the religious motivation for fasting is very different from the reasons advocated by Dr. Fung, say. Though even religious people themselves often misunderstand this point, religious disciplines are actually not about torturing oneself, but rather about freeing oneself from mental and emotional attachments that hinder one’s spiritual progress. Any physical benefits are irrelevant. By contrast, the discipline of fasting for health reasons comes from a different mindset, focuses on different goals, and places great value on the physical benefits.

(Robin) #31

Back in the early 70’s when I lived in the commune and we fasted regularly, my main memory of fasting was that I felt like I was high on speed (an even earlier experience). Euphoric energy.

(Tim Cee) #32



So you’re out of breath on the staircase, take the elevator. It’s too cold outside, stay indoors.

I’m not being funny here but trying to succeed at most things involves getting out of your comfort



“Embrace the suck!” Meeting challenges promotes growth. You can’t borrow your way out of debt or overeat your way out of bad health. There is a fine line between fasting and starvation. Fasting is going to have side affects for the duration of the fast. Starvation is injurious. Fasting is “easy” in that there’s no injury. But it’s still challenging. It requires one to exercise perseverance in the face of non-life-threatening discomfort. So weigh the symptoms against the impact. Is your work performance declining? Are you a danger to others because of fatigue or metabolic discord interfering with safety sensitive tasks? Are you hurting yourself by a lack of food. If you really want to fast longer, maybe a fat fast version would work for you?