Accelerating Goals April AND May: Carnivore Chat 2025

#41

Lamb chops for dinner with some pan-fried halloumi cheese. Eggs at breakfast. A few bits of air dried beef Biltong this afternoon. Didn’t even think about Easter chocolate. Except to write that. Still looking into incretins and certain fat metabolites, and how they may synergise to create food satiety. Wondering if food satiety extends out into life to feel satisfied with other aspects. Not quite at the level of gratitude. If I wrote the things to be grateful for, they would lack substance, and gratitude would not be satisfying.

#42

We ate all the smoked ham and shoulder… And some boiled eggs, Camembert, quark, lots of sour cream and beef tongue. It was lovely.
I ate other things as well but behaved well enough for off times… It’s time to go back. For real. I do my best to be serious. I LOVE carni food, I ate plenty of it lately with not so very much else, I can do it… Right?

I have some very lean tender pork soaked in spicy milk for tomorrow, leftover beef tongue, cheese and eggs. It should work. I wish to have some fat fast days afterwards. I mean, single ones separated with meaty days. I will roast pork loin and 2 huge chicken legs very soon.

(Bean) #43

Easter was fine. My cracked rib is much better, but my shoulder on my other side has been having a howling, roaring, flare. Needless to say I haven’t been sleeping. Sooo. Pulling back on the intros and carb creep that goes with it. Therapeutic Keto just works better for me.

Seeing the rheumatologist on Monday, thank goodness. I originally made this appointment last October. ETA: I am 36 hours into a version of PSMF and my flare disappeared. I’m going to step off the thread for a couple of days until I’ve tapered my steroids and put my habits back in order.

#44

:frowning: Best wishes! I should appreciate I just need to battle my habits and mental weaknesses now… Even if a tiny nudge when eating off could motivate me, I prefer my body feeling good on every diet I may do.
I am pretty determined at the moment, no way I can’t do a carnivore day today, seriously now! This winter was the worst in the meaning that I didn’t really do carnivore. Some extras always snuck in and I couldn’t bring myself to care enough. My diet probably wasn’t too bad, I can handle some extras super well and I always ate plenty of good carni food (not always much meat but I have low meat days even on carnivore sometimes) but I still lose benefits and overeat and have a bigger eating window (well the two are correlated) waaaaay easier.

Today isn’t so great this far, I had coffee and cheese wisps at 11am… I will be better tomorrow!

#45

It wasn’t hard. 3MAD but my lunch was the biggest meal by far. Lazy to bring the photo (it’s in a CF card downstairs) but I made a photo, yay! :smiley:
About 1800 kcal and 150g protein. Protein minimalization is hard. Well I was doomed when I got a bit hungry for dinner… :upside_down_face:

I am into marinated tenderized lean meats now! Be it chicken breast or pork, it becomes something very enjoyable (pork is still tastier :stuck_out_tongue: ). Even when I just used spicy fat, it worked well, too bad I don’t have lard now, I need some fatty meat soon…
I was a tad lost at dinner as I ate all my normal pork for lunch so it was processed pork, egg and cheese in the end.
Very chill day and no need to cook for Alvaro as he has his own veggie dish (with beef tongue though his lean share run out). Zero temptation, that’s nice. The first few days aren’t always this easy though they are rarely hard, I have my starting determination. But I can thank my super delicious pork it turned out well enough despite the way too many meals.

#46

Yes.

#47

Finished off a carnivore stew I had cooked up with beef heart and lamb. Then packaged into meals. It was a good feed. I poured it over some cubed goat’s cheese. Tiny cubes. As it was heating in the saucepan I made a central hollow in the chunky stew, it also had whole meat sausages that contained liver and spleen. In the hollow, I cracked two pastured chicken eggs and some salt. It was a hearty dinner. I wonder how the term ‘hearty’ originates?

This morning was a four egg chicken egg omelette with some grated Jarlsberg Norwegian cheese cooked in local butter.

Keeping the rhythm of 2MAD. I had a busier day of jobs to do yesterday, and a meeting and a cloudy sunset drew me out for a walk along the coast. It is a challenge to limit physical activity to regulate my heart rate when I am feeling good and well. Today has been blustery winds and wintry weather, so an easier day to rest and read, or listen to podcasts.

I do have a slab of bulk beef in the fridge. So, I’ll be carving that into steaks next. I pack them up and freeze them for about a fortnight’s worth of carnivore dinners.

I have a big event heart scan coming up in just over a week. It’s CT angiography to check my heart vasculature. It’s the next level heart test from the standard CT coronary calcium score. The test will also be an accurate comparison on the shape and structure of my heart. Comparing it to the ultrasound I had a few weeks ago.

Then I have a surgery soon after that, the treatments just fell into the calendar like that. The surgery is for skin cancer excision. As a surfer in Australia we spend our golden years of surfing having skin cancers identified and removed. That one is done under local anaesthetic. Then stitches to look after for a week. It means another road trip to the city. Always an opportunity for a face lift.

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(Bean) #48

Okay. I’m reset; pain and steroid free and back on track. My flare is managed and the reality check was probably needed.

I know my injured rib and eating eggs triggered this flare, but I suspect there were dietary accomplices.

DH is at the end of his rope with his gastro issues. Since I had a colleague who died this week from a colonoscopy- introduced infection, doing a carnivore diet for a month before proceeding with any kind of surgery suddenly seems like the safe option. He’s on board.

Taking @Pjam’s advice and following Dr. Ede’s Quiet Carnivore as a beginning place for DH. We’ll probably consider pork an intro to try after 7 days, but otherwise do it as written for him.

(Bob M) #49

Yikes. I did not know that was possible.

I think carnivore is a great elimination diet, which can help with a lot. I guess your DH will have to watch out for things like oxalate dumping. I don’t believe I’ve ever run into that, but I also eat some oxalates.

(Bean) #50

Anything that is surgery (including colonoscopies) comes with some level of risk. There are some nasty bacteria in hospital settings. She was only 61 and in relatively good health.

(Bean) #51

One of my goals for May is to take a break from forums and social media, so as we wind April down, consider starting a May carnivore thread if this conversation is helpful to you.

I ordered a blood ketone meter today. I’ve been low carb in some form since South Beach / Atkins when my college kid was a toddler. Recently though, I’ve noticed I have better resilience from RA , histamine, and allergies when I’m deeper into ketosis, so I want to see what I can do with glucose ketone ratios.

I finally after… well a long time- more than a year… broke through my usual stall point and have very slowly continues to creep down. That feels like a win.

How about you all? Any small victories to celebrate?

#52

Bean, thanks for curating the challenge. My heart problems are much more manageable and clothes fit better.

(Karen) #53

Was a thread started for May?

(KM) #55

It’s been really quiet this month, I think people are just still posting here. So glad you’re ok!

(Karen) #56

Yes I am still in the land of the living. Hope y’all have been well and happy since almost a year past. Can quite remember when i last posted.

I have been well and upbeat this past year. Still very much carnivore…ever unchanging :wink: it will be 5 years later this year. Still loving the simple eating regime.

Little munchkin Freddie has grown strong and is as big as ever and had his 1st birthday on 3rd of this month! Where did that time go after the years trying for him. Sian has been an absolutely amazing Mum, of course Dave has been a fab Dad too and it shows in how consistently content Freddie is … always happy and smiling. He took his first steps the night before his birthday!

Smashing CrossFit and also throwing Calesthenics and Handstand classes in to the mix. All the conditioning and strength work has quite literally transformed soft toned to muscular…getting peeps approaching me in the street about it and chucking the odd positive comment as they walk past. I hadn’t really noticed the changes until this started happening! Consistency is key. Still workout fasted and start eating about 1230/1pm so this woe really works for me. Changes trainers for barefoot and WOW what a difference all round. Faster power walking and faster more grounded running. No ankle stabbing pains when I start running, back feels better not so much pain though I can be choosy with workouts, still being kind to my body and health.

Well that was a bit of background catch up now for some suggestions … I am getting a tooth implant next Friday (23rd) and have to follow a soft food regime for 7 to 10 days till sutures are removed. I obviously can’t eat scrambled eggs for the whole of that time! I have started stocking up on Salmon, I bought 2 packs of cooked fillets today. I need some more ideas please.
Not sure if I will be allowed to eat the lively rollmop herrings as the dental surgeon hasn’t mentioned vinegar. I always drain them before eating but of course you can’t get rid of all of it!

So please wrack your brains for me!

#57

Nice update, Karen, it was good to hear about you and little Freddie! :slight_smile:

I have some major dental work done too, thankfully I don’t need a tooth implant but I had harder days when I appreciated soft food. I had soft-boiled eggs and cream cheese, I don’t even remember more but then things got quickly better for me. And I bought some pâté last time for the days in the near future when I won’t be able to chew if it will happen, maybe not. It’s not that easy to get my high protein intake from very soft food especially from carni food.
I try to stay close, have extra items but not much. As my main carnivore food is fried/roasted meat, the day when 4 of my teeth in the front was in bad shape (some even in pain) and I really couldn’t chew harder things, it was a bit challenging. I still can’t just not eat for 1-2 days. But for a short time low meat is doable for me. Fat is easy, of course but getting 130g protein while even chewing very soft food was unpleasant, that was a bit tough.

So… I would eat many eggs, soft cheeses (cream cheese is super soft but brie/camambert isn’t bad either… and the harder ones can get softened, even melted…), pâté, quark, cream and sour cream (sadly it doesn’t help much with protein)… 7-10 days would be too much for me so I would just eat mug cakes at some point, my current fav is almost carnivore anyway, the flour is mostly quark and milk powder :stuck_out_tongue: It’s quite a stretch stretch I understand but it’s me with my limits.
Some meats are soft, fish is good at that but I use my meat mallet a lot lately with optionally marinading the meat, that helped me out, even my usual pork became quite soft! Okay, still some chewing was needed… It’s very hard if one truly can’t chew at all though I tried to cut my soft meat into small enough pieces so almost just swallowing became okay… But I could chew soft things, it was merely unpleasant so I didn’t bother so much. Ground meat is even softer. I didn’t bother with that but maybe I should have as even my very soft sponge cake buns were a bit of a problem but I can’t just eat cream cheese alone, that leaves me hungry.

(Karen) #58

Hi Shanita glad to hear you are good. I won’t go off plan with any plant food or cream but may pick up some cream cheese and some brie as they should be fine. You have given me an idea to pop to butchers and see if they can put some fat aside when they trim it off the beef cuts. I also thought that could perhaps mulch some cooked meats in my nutri- bullet and have like a broth.

Thanks for spurring my brain.

Also I can’t see where to load a photo???

#59

Oh yeah, fat. When I couldn’t really chew, I had some roasts, lean pork and super fatty pork. I must say the unusually fatty pork ribs were so much easier to eat! The lean, harder pork ended up being mostly eaten by Alvaro… I put some little in scrambled eggs later, cut into small pieces… I went back to eating my rich scrambled eggs :slight_smile: Eggs, various meats, cheese, even sour cream… Sometimes when I am not too hungry at lunch, a 3 egg omelet may do the trick! Or even a smaller one, very occasionally… It has such a nice variety!

(Bean) #60

Pureed “cream of chicken” soup?

Pate is a good idea.

Broth soup with meat mousse “dumplings”. (Not sure of your fussy-cooking tolerance level) https://foragerchef.com/how-to-make-mousselineforcemeatfarce/
(ETA- most recipes have cream, but if you’ll do cream cheese, the idea is to fold the soft meat into the whipped cream, so I suspect whipped cream cheese would also work for your purposes.)

(Bean) #61

I had no idea this was a thing, lol.