99% there to quitting and trying low carb approach

(Chris Kornelsen) #1

Just had my 3rd IBS attack in the mast month and ever since keto it’s been like clockwork attack after attack and not going daily. I did high veggies high fibre keto, low veggies keto. Now carnivore and it isnt getting better and I really cant live like this. I’m considering going low carb (less then 150g) and introducing more fermented bread and veggies and fruit again…because before keto my IBS barely bothered me.

I Really am lost and confused as I believe so much In this stuff and I so badly want it to work but I just dony understand how I can get my body going regularly. I can take all the electrolytes in the world. Tons of salt and even 1000mg of mag citrate and no effect. Anyone had success on a low carb?

('Jackie P') #2

Tricky, but I would say a little less salt and cut the magnesium for now. Both can stimulate the bowel. There is some evidence that fibre aggravates IBS, but if carnivore didn’t work for you I’m not sure.
I hope some others are a bit more helpful and I wish you well🙂

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #3

I suggest you google or duckduck this: “ibs and ketogenic diet”.

It seems like you need more specific help than is possible on a public forum.

(PSackmann) #4

If you can eat 150g carbs and be in ketosis, then that is keto for you. The 20g is suggested as a start as that will get the majority of the population into ketosis and quickly cut cravings. I don’t have any experience with IBSC, although I wonder how increasing fat intake with MCT or coconut oil would help? Outside that, if you need to increase your carbs to increase fermented veggies, then do it, adding a bit at a time. You may be one of those who can stay in ketosis at 100g or so, especially if you restrict eating to specific time frames and exercise.

#5

For myself, I found olive oil to be a trigger food. If I do a stir fry with olive oil, about 30-60 minutes after eating, I would start feeling bloated and start cramping up, eventually leading to my entire digestive tract emptying out. Then I’d usually feel fine.

(Chris Kornelsen) #6

During keto I ate olive oil alot. I cut it out going carnivore buy added it in this week.

Is it possible to develop intolerances? Like I could eat all the vegetable seed oils and processed foods I wanted buy now they can somehow trigger me? Bexause I just had my 2nd baby and she is in the NICU so ove been eating eggs bacon steaks and butters from resteraunt which where I’m from is 100% margarine.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #7

Sorry to hear your baby is in the NICU. I know how rough that is.

(Stephanie DeBorde) #8

I started the Keto diet but knew my health needed more vitamins than what that diet allows you to have. And I’ve always had trouble not using the restroom regularly. So I just add daily the Miralax powder that I mix with water, I now go regularly. I’m still on the Keto diet and make sure I stay under 50 carbs daily. I make sure daily I have my glass of water with Miralax in it. Yet I’m unsure if the Keto diet allows it. I also take daily a multi vitamin, complete vitamin, and a few different vitamins that I’m scared I’m not getting enough of. I’ve been thinking about going toward the Paleo diet. I Hope I helped :pray:t3:

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #9

Keto doesn’t restrict you from taking vitamins. Just be mindful that some chewables and gummies have a bit of carbs/sugar (but not much).

(Full Metal KETO AF) #10

So I’m confused a little. Recently you posted that you hadn’t had movement for three days. Is that still the case and are you cramped or in pain? :cowboy_hat_face:

#11

If I were you, I’d be nearly at my wit’s end. What you’re going through with your enteric nervous system/gut sounds really really hard. And excess stress - such as having a baby in the NICU - definitely can make it worse.

For the short term, a digestive ally that relieves gut pain and moves gas is Fennel seeds. Indians chew them after each meal. You can buy a jar in the spice section of any store (preferably organic). The traditional dose is a teaspoon of the raw seeds - you just chew them/eat them - and they cool/soothe the GI tract (and make you belch) within minutes. Another ally is Slippery Elm, which also has a long history for soothing troubled guts.

For the longer term to address root causes, in case you don’t already know about these, I HIGHLY recommend two key resources:

Grace Liu PhD’s talk on building a warrior gut - she previously suffered from IBS and SIBO. She’s a low carb functional medicine practitioner and pharmacologist whose program for healing is to “Weed, seed, and refeed” the gut, incorporating soil-based probiotics for a certain phase. Dr. Liu focuses on restoring the “ancestral core microbiota”. She has a wonderful, free ebook, here: https://thegutinstitute.com/

And you can here her great presentation here:

https://www.enduranceplanet.com/dr-grace-liu-how-to-build-a-warrior-gut-common-and-solvable-gut-issues-in-athletes-and-more/

And, the work of microbiologiest Norm Robillard Phd, author of Fast Tract Digestion, with a forward by legendary LCHF/keto physician Michael Eades MD. Basically, IBS is an excess gut fermentation issue due to microbial issues, and certain kinds of fiber are your friend and certain ones not.

Dr. Robillard’s blog and website are generous with info, and the comments threads are fascinating.

(Todd Allen) #13

If your diet experiments don’t bring relief consider other things not related to diet. I recently discovered I have lead poisoning which is a cause of constipation and gut pain as well as high levels of toxic bacteria such as e. coli & c. diff and a protozoan parasite.