7 Dangers of Going Keto

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(Keto_for_Biginer) #6

Spam. Not at all

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #7

This does not appear to be spam to me, but rather inaccurate information that needs to be countered by accurate data.

@keto_diet_plan be sure to read the studies carefully. Many of them that are used to denigrate a ketogenic diet are much higher in carbohydrate intake than we would consider ketogenic for most people. Many of them also involve restricting calories, which can inhibit fat loss. Another criticism of many studies is that they do not last long enough for the participants in the keto arm to experience full keto-adaptation, which as I mentioned above, takes six to eight weeks for most people. A two-week study is guaranteed not to show the full benefits of a ketogenic diet. You are going to have a difficult job convincing people who have seen better data and who have personal experience to back up what the best-quality studies tell us.

(Carnivore for the win) #8

No worries.

Just seemed like some interesting statents from someone who teaches weight loss training courses and has studied weight loss for seven years. Search this forum for some great scientific articles on all the points from the original post.

(Jane) #9

Misinformed, inaccurate BS with no source linked.

Sounds like something a vegan group would publish.

Care to list a source?

Have you ever gone keto for at least 6 months in order to have personal experience? Doubt it.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #10

Had I spotted it sooner, I would have flagged it as spam. @keto_diet_plan you do not join the forum and 6 hours later post your ‘definitive guide’ to the dangers of keto. I don’t care how many years you’ve ‘studied weight loss’. Had you done even a modicum of forum search you would have discovered that every one of your ‘7 dangers’ has been discussed and explored repeatedly. As already noted your list is just inaccurate, incomplete and misinterpretation. In short: total bollocks.

You’ve come to the right place to correct your nonsense. There are discussions and links to many studies that address all your issues and more. If you’re truly interested in learning, take advantage.

(Carnivore for the win) #11

It’s just a copy and paste of the second article that comes up in a Google search

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #12

BINGO! We have a winner.

#13

A lifetime reversal of self abuse with food is going to be very painful. No question about it but it’s a lot better to be honest with ourselves than keep perpetuating the same self abusive sugar rollercoasters.

(Carnivore for the win) #14

I have a feeling it’s a fake profile. There have been many trolls that have come and gone on this forum over the years. They find its easy to rile people up when it comes to food and health. KCKO

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #15

@Elliot-W Either that, or like both of us suspect it’s just spam for the linked website in the profile. This same person posted an elaborate recipe so we’ll see if anything else is forthcoming.

@anon94382398 For the record. I spent 7 decades eating bog standard SAD and went keto with a 4-day water fast at the age of 71. Other than several hours of severe ‘carb’ hunger on day two, I never experienced anything uncomfortable - none of the ‘7 deadly dangers’. Did not miss any of the carb-loaded foods I had eaten previously and still don’t 4 1/2 plus years later. Not only - within 2 weeks of starting keto the indigestion, gas, bloat and reflux of a lifetime was gone! That alone would keep me eating keto for the rest of my life. Going keto was the best thing I ever did for myself.

(Carnivore for the win) #16

I had a look at the information from the page and it is all fake. The recipe is just a copy and paste from the first recipe on a Google search for the name.

#17

Were you overweight?

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #18

Not much. I had a hernia op scheduled for early March, 2017. I had read that the less fat the doc has to work with the better/easier the outcome. I had a little flab around my abdomen and decided to get rid of as much as I could prior to the op. I eventually lost about 35 pounds over the course of the first 6 months on keto. About 25 of those came off in time for the hernia op. The rest came off as I gradually increased my daily food intake over the next 3 months until I stabilized at 145 pounds. I’ve remained at that weight and comp (14-15% BF) in maintenance since.

Yes, I know I’m probably not typical - my experience is very likely not typical for those with a lot of fat to lose or severe metabolic dysfunction. Even though I ate SAD all my previous life, I did not suffer much metabolic damage from it. It was only during the decade of my 60s that I started to put on a little extra fat around my waist.

Still, I’m a valid example of keto success. My weight and body comp are virtually identical at the age of 76 as at the age of 18. I’ll take that any day.

(Doug) #19

:smile:

#20

We’re on the same page and it’s interesting what you’ve written but I’ve seen those with metabolic syndrome attempt at keto, experience these cleaning out the garbage symptoms and then quit.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #21

I wouldn’t call it spam, but rather trolling. The admin staff will keep an eye on the account and determine how to proceed.

@richard has expressed a preference for not censoring inaccurate information, but instead countering it with good information. What he calls a “teachable moment.” So anyone who’d care to inundate the OP with decent study data, have at it!

You are probably right. Thanks to you and @amwassil for tracking down the sources of the OP’s two threads, so far. The Health.com article that led off this thread is so easily demolished that I wonder they were not ashamed to post it in the first place.

Let’s see what further wacky information comes from this profile.

(Bob M) #22

Almost 8 years here. Will be 8 on 1/1/22.

Not sure why there’s a perception the keto diet is not sustainable. Or restrictive.

#6 – I’ve (re)gained muscle mass. Decreased metabolism is wrong, as several studies indicated increased calories burnt for keto.

#7 – Increased risk of diabetes? How? Really, how? If you’re not eating carbs, then the thing on the keto diet that causes diabetes is…?

(Bob M) #23

Hard to “teach” people like this. It’s like arguing with a vegan – it’s best not done.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #24

I think you’re absolutely correct. Many folks of this forum can attest to that. It’s too bad, really tragic, that many folks who are metabolically sick or worse give up on the plan that’s probably their only hope for fixing their problems. I can empathize. But if I had encountered any issues my first recourse would have been to check it out. Not just to give up and think ‘keto sucks’. Or ‘I just can’t live without …’ During my first 6 months I read a lot of conflicting commentary which I attempted to verify with actual science. And it was not very difficult to do so.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #25

Oh, you’re absolutely right; there’s no reaching the OP, but Richard feels that the corrections to the false info make the site a better resource for people who come across it later.