Am I weird? 😂

[Janie]

breath acetone disappear completely

No way to measure that since the breathylizers will pick up the alcohol you just drank

[Janie]

@amwassil

Do you plan on doing your own experiment any time soon?

[amwassil]

@Janie I have purchased a Ketonix and am awaiting arrival. After I have it I plan to do various testing of several things, including the alcohol test, and will post whatever info I gather.

You are correct that detecting acetone after drinking alcohol is problematic. The Ketonix won’t do it. But possibly the Levl would. Anyone willing to spring for a Levl?

[Janie]

Looking forward to your results!

[amwassil]

Am I weird?

The Alcohol Urine Experiment Anyone is welcome to give this a go. The only prerequisites are you’re in ketosis and have been long enough to be fat adapted. I invite you to share your results or not. You can do this simply for your own information if you wish. Pick a couple of days when you can do a lot of urine testing without arousing suspicion Do not consume any alcohol in any form for at least 48 hours before starting. The first day is to establish a base line for comparison. Tes…

The hypothesis: Alcohol inhibits ketone production because the liver metabolizes the alcohol in preference to anything else until all the alcohol is used up. During the time the liver is metabolizing alcohol it does not produce new ketones. Since alcohol is used for fuel rather than blood ketones the supply of ketones in the blood are treated as excess and excreted in urine. So we should expect to see a rise in urine ketones above base line while the alcohol is metabolized and until blood ketones start being used for fuel again.

My Urine ketone test experiment:

Tue, Jul 30 Determined Baseline Urine Ketones
19:00 Trace: 5, 0.5

Test Procedure:

• 19:30 Ethanol 1, half shot
• 20:30 Ethanol 2, half shot
• 21:00 BAC .17
• 21:45 Ketones Trace: 5, 0.5
• 22:00 Ethanol 3, half shot
• 23:25 Ketones Trace: 5, 0.5
• 23:30 BAC .16

Wed, Jul 31

• 00:45 Trace: 5, 0.5
• 00:45 BAC .15
• 08:00 Ketones Negative: 0, 0.0
• 08:00 BAC .0

Note: I have established that my urine ketone baseline previously and it has not changed. So last night’s pre-ethanol measure simply confirmed it. Thus, I did not bother doing multiple tests.

My result does not support my original hypothesis that urine ketones would rise when the liver started to metabolize ethanol. My urine ketones stayed at baseline. Interestingly, my urine ketones actually went to 0 overnight. I suppose that might be expected given that ketone synthesis was halted during ethanol metabolism and whatever acetoacetate was present in my urine originally was eliminated and not replenished.

[amwassil]

Any discussion specific to my urine experiment should be done in the following new topic, thanks:

The Alcohol Urine Experiment

This is a dupe of topic post 84451/19. I’ve created this new topic for in addition so any discussion of the experiment specifically can take place here rather than there. The hypothesis: Alcohol inhibits ketone production because the liver metabolizes the alcohol in preference to anything else until all the alcohol is used up. During the time the liver is metabolizing alcohol it does not produce new ketones. Since alcohol is used for fuel rather than blood ketones the supply of ketones in th…

[Janie]

Interesting.

As long as your BAC was above zero your blood ketones stayed at baseline. So were you metabolizing the alcohol and the ketones just floated around in your blood not being needed?

Then your ketones went to zero the next morning after all the alcohol was out of your system. Some might conclude that the alcohol stopped ketosis - at least temporarily. I’m sure you were back into ketosis by midday.