Your sun exposure?

(Edith) #41

Same is true of my husband.

(Troy) #42

This WAS …my :sun_with_face:Sun Tool Kit
:heart_eyes:

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Then bake and not move a freaking muscle
Soaking up the SoCal Beach Sun
Burn :fire: baby :fire: Burn

:flushed: Yikes
Oh boy😓

NOW

I take walks daily.
In the early morning or evening
Sometimes BOTH
30-60 minutes per day
I supplement Vit D as well

#43

Oral nicotinamide was safe and effective in reducing the rates of new nonmelanoma skin cancers and actinic keratoses in high-risk patients.

#44

What happens if we put enough anecdotes and observations in a pie chart?

(Joey) #45

Referred to as anecdata. :chart_with_upwards_trend::chart_with_downwards_trend:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #46

I don’t think pie is keto, is it? :rofl::rofl:

Seriously, while the saying may be true that “The plural of anecdotes is not data,” at some point a lot of anecdotes become hard to ignore. The only real difference between my personal anecdote and my case study depends on whether it is I or my doctor who publishes it.

#47

:rofl: Love it.

:safety_pin: Having been a tweenager in the late 1970s and early 80s punk rock era, isn’t the term “Anarchdata?” The anti-data data.

@PaulL maybe data is a quantifiable anecdote. Plenty of accounting and engineering minded people in these forums have been tracking and measuring. Quite the potpourri of possible plausibilities.

(Joey) #48

:+1: Excellent wordflagration.

Fair point :thinking: I understand that when N=1 it’s an anecdote, but when n=1 it’s a datapoint?

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #49

It’s certainly a data point if it’s part of a randomized controled trial. My point was not that enough anecdotes or enough case studies turn into rigorous science, but that enough of them point to a phenomenon that is worthy of investigation.

For example, Stefansson’s assertion that the Inuit peoples among whom he and his team had lived survived on a diet solely of meat and fat was pooh-poohed by scientists back in New York, until he and Anderson spent that year demonstrating that living on meat and fat was possible. Stefansson continued to live as basically a carnivore until his death. (He lived into his eighties.) The existence of a large group of people who have been eating zero-carb/carnivore for nearly two decades also demonstrates that it is possible. No one has actually studied that way of eating yet (although David Ludwig is apparently about to publish a study that is relevant), so we can’t call it science, but living on meat and fat only has been demonstrated enough—in both Westerners and in isolated cultures—that such a diet can no longer be dismissed out of hand as impossible.

(Joey) #50

Well put.

I recall studying ANOVA tables along with a slew of other statistical methods for teasing out correlations. Correlations can be interesting, but fall short of causation - which is required for drawing reliable action plans to influence future outcomes.

There are too many entertaining examples of confusing causation for correlation to mention here.