Why I’m Quitting Keto - A Post For Myself

(Edith) #21

Actually, the fruits and grains we eat today were not created by God. They were genetically modified by humans and barely resemble their wild ancestors.

(Jennibc) #22

BlockquoteWE CAN’T LIE TO OURSELVES…EATING IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PLEASURE IN LIFE, eating freely without having to worry about that hidden evil chemical in that cookie…At the end, what can end up killing us faster it’s the constant monitoring over food and “ketosis” of those great food out there, and no, I’m not only talking about that apple pie or high sugar cake from the local bakery, no but that KIWI and :banana:…and let’s FACE IT!!..these fruits and grains and many more (which are banned from keto) were created by GOD, millions of years ago this is how people used to eat, yes, along with meat, and milk, etc…but FRUITS AND GRAINS TOO!

Well, if that’s how YOU feel, that’s fine, but I don’t think I am lying to myself when I say one of the biggest pleasures in life is not eating food that makes me feel physically and mentally horrible. When I cut grain out 8 years ago my anxiety and depression vanished. I’d done it to lose weight, but the big surprise was how the underlying mood issues I’d had my entire life were gone. There’s a lot of research coming out with regard to the gut microbiome and mood disorders. What affects our gut microbiome more than anything? The food we eat. My biggest pleasures in life are having a good laugh, having good conversation about ideas, spending time with good people, engaging in my community and watching my son grow up and develop into a man. All these things are enhanced by changing my diet in a way that has made me much healthier. As far as ‘stress’ goes, read “The Upside of Stress” Stress, if you view it the right way, is not your enemy.

(Mike W.) #23

I think you might wanna cut back on the salt…

(Jennibc) #24

:laughing::rofl::laughing::rofl::laughing:

(Jennibc) #25

It looks like this person joined the board about a week ago. I am sensing some trolling here. I’d commented to my husband that this conversation board was the most drama free I’d ever been on (not that I’ve been on many but still…) I suspected it was because this way of eating lifted people’s emotional difficulties over time. Let’s face it, when your brain and nervous system is performing optimally you can get down to taking care of any of that emotional baggage you have been carrying around! At least I hope trolling is the case here, otherwise I am a bit sad for this person, because this type of post suggests some issues.

(Mike W.) #26

It’s like with anything in life, you get out what you put in. If you don’t have time to read labels and figure out what the hell you’re putting into your body, but you have 20 minutes to produce this drivel, you might want to check your priorities.

(Teri) #27

I’m mostly going to contiune eating the healthy foods I’ve been eating, but allow myself to eat other foods if I want. Truthfully I miss things like BBQ ribs, fried catfish, corn bread, and my grandmother’s mashed potatoes. Just random things here and there. I don’t intend on making these a daily part of my diet, but I do want to bring more fruit back, and have a wider variety of veggies. Just stuff like that. I’ll give it a go for a month or two. If I start feeling yucky, or find any negative side effects from the change I will definitely go back to keto.
I have learned a lot from this site, and just doing keto in general, and I think that will benefit me in making better choices even with more carbs in my diet. I like a wider range of things than I did before I started. And that’s a great thing.

(Jennibc) #29

I think he’s talking to someone else here - sometimes the reply function doesn’t always work right.

(Teri) #30

Thanks. I’ll delete it.

(Hyperbole- best thing in the universe!) #31

I think @MiKetoAF was replying to your thread thief, not you.

Sounds like a worthy experiment, adding more carbs. And now you know about keto if you find you need it. Good health to you!

#32

You are meant to explore interesting and satisfying foods, albeit in low carb doses, you aren’t meant to be torturing yourself in the name of keto (and then complain about it all).

You may well imagine you’re one of the chosen few who can survive this “global industrial diet” unscathed but reality has caught up with the rest of us.

If you have any honest and serious questions ask them and we might be able to help by sharing our experiences in the hope they may also help you. Otherwise good luck.

(Teri) #33

Honestly I, like a lot of people, want it all. I want to be able to eat high fat, but also enjoy some sugar here and there. For instance at this exact moment I’m having a BPC with ghee (since I’ve already got it in the house) and a tsp (1 serving) of Morena pure cane sugar (which is like the best sugar and I hate that it’s so good). It has 4 grams of carbs. Before I wouldn’t have done that because 1 tsp of sugar in my coffee wouldn’t have been worth replacing broccoli for dinner, for example. Stuff like that. I wanna enjoy my sweet coffee again. I’ve never cared for artificial sweeteners. I’ve tried a few of them. Maybe I haven’t found the right one. Maybe that’s where I need help. Last night I ate a bowl of chili with crackers which is one of my favorite winter/cold night foods. So far my stomach is ok. We will see later today because it was pretty late when I ate it.
But maybe I can find a way to do a cheat day once a week and make it work. Maybe I need a friend who can keep me on track and don’t have the support I need because I need more of it than others. Idk.

#34

What is all this God shit regarding food? You think God made the Dole Banana you find in the store? Not even remotely. That tube of sweet goodness is highly modified by man. You wouldn’t even recognize a real banana as God intended it.
Grains? Seriously? Modern wheat has very little resemblance to historical grains.

All of this “God” food is largely an invention of the last hundred years.

(Matthew) #35

It is impressive if indeed your health was great ‘on a high sugar diet and carbs’. Did you do lots of exercise? Were you very sporty because if you were not I would be hard pressed to believe this unless it was unrefined sugar and carbs.

Forgive me, I had to chuckle when I read ‘and i’m not settling for just one or the other’. Well good for you I say!
Good luck on your road ahead.

(Teri) #36

I think he knows that. I’m assuming anyway. I mean, the banana used to be filled with seeds until we modified it to be edible to our liking. Corn is ridiculous, but it’s so good, and truthfully, as much as I dispise that industry, corn is cheap and is responsible for keeping a large part of the world from going hungry. Same with rice. Carbs when used properly can manage hunger, and maintain a healthy weight. But I get that we have additives and unneeded sugar, and that has lead to an epidemic of unhealthy people of enormous proportion. I don’t want to be one of those people. I want to find that middle ground.
I have an appointment with my dietician, so of course I’m going to discuss all of this with her. Maybe she can help put me in a course that is sustainable for me.

(Bob M) #37

Oh God, a dietician. I implore you to start taking your blood sugar. An office mate of mine went to a dietician when Atkins “ceased to work”, and is now eating oats for breakfast, multiple meals per day, etc. I guarantee his blood sugar is through the roof.

You really can’t have it all. You can’t have sugar and pizza (made from hybridized wheat that’s no longer anything like wheat used to be) and health, if you’re susceptible to blood sugar and insulin issues. You can’t. Either buck up (as we used to say in the Navy) or quit whining. You are in charge of your health.

(Teri) #38

At first I ran a 5k everyday (I have ran off and on for years so starting at that distance wasn’t an issue). I slowly increased up to 5 - 10 miles a day (depending on if I do two runs) because I’m planning on running a half marathon in the spring. But I was planning the marathon before beginning keto. That’s why my macros were set to what they were. I was running 5 miles a day when I began keto. And I’ve even considered the fact that adding that second run every 2-3 days is part of the problem. That I’m not ready and now my body is fighting back by demanding more/different foods. Idk.
I increased my calories/fat/protein along with those extra miles, though. So I assumed that would keep me on track. But maybe I don’t have the muscle mass yet. Like I said, I haven’t gained weight.

(Matthew) #39

Well you are/were the sporty type. I also run a bit. That to me would explain in part why you were in good health pre-Keto despite your high sugar diet.

There are some threads I’ve noticed here on running and keto. You might want to check them out. Cheers

(Teri) #40

My dietician was referred to me by my neurologist for my epilepsy, who suggested keto in the first place. I see her at the same hospital that I see my neurologist. Which is the UCLA neurology department, and they are #1 in our region, so I assume they are pretty good, lol.

(Teri) #41

Maybe I will. I’ve read also that with runners/athletic people that ingesting a higher carb meal right before a workout is often ok because you will use those carbs during your workout, and can stay in ketosis. Maybe I should try that. I could try it for a week or two and see if that works for my body. It may be the trick I need.
I do a second run in the evening around dinnertime every other to every 3rd day. So if I could make that a “cheat day”, then this may actually be sustainable for me. I’d like it to be, because I honestly do know it’s healthier in the long run for all of us. I just have to find the strength. Maybe I needed more time to recover from my eating disorder and was rushing myself into too many changes at once. Maybe I should come back in a couple of months and try again once I feel more stable about food. With current food issues already existing I can see the logic in a dietary change not working out well, even if it’s possible for it to work in the future.