US food pyramid flip

#21

So, fatty meat, butter, eggs and dairy has healthy fats - but people should barely eat any of these? ifr I eat meat or eggs, I usually mean business. What’s the point in eating 50g slightly fatty meat, one egg and a tiny bit of cheese in the sea of plants? (I had no calculation, just made a guess.) It’s weird that they encourage items quite high in saturated fat so they can’t really fit into the guidelines in decent amounts. (I am still curious how a day they imagine then.)

I wonder when they figure out fiber isn’t essential and in many many cases, not even individually. Some needs some, we know that but there are the vegs and nuts and other things for that I would think… Why all that grain then? I mean, if it’s for affordable school/elderly lunches, that’s one thing but to tell the masses they should eat like this for health… That’s just not true in many cases. Maybe people who think for themselves or experiment to figure out their ideal diet aren’t the target to begin with, still, it bothers me a bit. I always read fiber is oh so great and important and helpful and it’s absolutely neutral to me and many others and even harmful for some. And it’s in so many items anyway (but maybe some people need a ton of it, I don’t know).

(KM) #22

I suppose that’s the silver lining, if none of this can be used as definitive information, it can also be ignored. My mother lives in a retirement community that provides many of her meals, and they are switching over to a commercialized management. It will be interesting to see how/if these new rules are implemented.

(Central Florida Bob ) #23

That’s the best way to handle the Pyramid/MyPlate/whatever. Throw it out. Like virtually all medical studies constantly appearing in news, it’s junk that can’t tell cause from correlation or coincidence.

#24

Yes, I reckon so. Use it as a lesson, not as a creed.

(Bob M) #25

Well, they REALLY should have removed the saturated fat limit of 10% of calories, because now all I see is that meat is still bad for you because it has saturated fat in it.

(Cathy) #26

And what does 10% saturated fat allow for … a glass of whole milk and you’re done! LOL! Too funny.

(BuckRimfire) #27

Yeah, the final product here is kinda incoherent. It seems better than the old version, but def not perfect.

(BuckRimfire) #28

It will be very interesting to hear if people report any actual changes in schools/prisons/military/institutional menus, which should change, but will they??? I’m afraid that cost cutting, inertia and benign neglect will let them get away with minimal changes.

My mom died in memory care last year, so I missed my chance to observe this for myself by “that much.”

(BuckRimfire) #29

It’s bizarre that they didn’t make that change. They had the power and motivation to alter so much about it, but left in that limit? Why??? The whole document literally makes no sense when that is left in there.

I doubt anyone would have cared anyway (outside of institutions: see my other comment for doubts about that working, either). The people who actually notice will mostly dismiss it as a politicized decision by “right wing men,” and ignore it. I’d accept that characterization for a lot of what’s happened in the last year, so if I hadn’t read Good Calories, Bad Calories I’d probably agree with them, by default.

edit: My reference to “right wing men” was meant as a bit of a joke based on this podcast episode, which I found amusing:


I don’t think that description fits Nina Teicholz very well!

(Ohio ) #30

Pretty much sums up the NIH as a whole.

(Alec) #31

Apparently the sat fat from whole milk will not be part of the 10% sat fat cap (according to NinaT). So this means the kids will get their whole milk. Definitely a step forward.