Ultra processed Foods

#21

Well good on you, you’re much more giving of the benefit of the doubt than I am.

I’ve grown highly cynical given all the damage the media has done in all countries in recent years over many different topics and fields. They have destroyed my trust in their motives and their ethics. The nutritional field is just one of many areas that they have failed us. I’ve seen articles that are meant to strike fear or concern over a particular food or diet, and it’s obvious that it is being fueled by big Ag or big Pharma, or some climate change nonsense and there is financial and political motives behind it.

The journalists of today no longer question because it’s career suicide for them. That’s just a proven fact. They also don’t have courage anymore to stand up to “the man” whoever that is today. These days that’s usually one of these “world” organizations rather than a national one, yet here in America it’s both. Journalism has abandoned their primary purpose of true investigation into the truth to keep powers in check. They used to care about truth. Now they only toe the line and parrot and regurgitate falsities on behalf of whoever is paying their bills, and promising to further their careers and notoriety. That’s why I now seek out independent journalists who have no ties to anyone and can be completely truthful without consequences. Sort of how I had to seek out the independent doctors no longer tied to the institutions, who know the truth about nutrition and can speak it without consequences. Hard to find, but they are there, and it changes everything when you find them.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #22

What’s left out of this sort of thinking is that, in the case of arsenic, strychnine, and cyanide, a “moderate” amount is none, zero, zilch, nada.

Also, in the physiology of addiction, moderation is by definition impossible. An alcoholic is someone who is physically incapable of consuming alcohol “moderately,” in the sense of having a few and being able to stop. Much, much easier not to start in the first place. The same is true for any other addictive substance or behaviour.

The physiological reasons for this have been well elucidated over the past fifty years. The problem is that only about 20% of the population is vulnerable to any given addiction, and the remaining 80% simply do not understand what it is like to be an addict. Even people who are addicted to something else can fail to understand an addiction that they do not share.

(KM) #23

Yes. It just struck me, because she’s a truly gracious, giving person and intelligent, but her underlying conception is to see self discipline that puts occasionally difficult limits on tempting things as a form of self-loathing or punishment. And I think that attitude has become extremely prevalent, and I think it’s driven by corporate marketing. L’Oreal, because you’re worth it.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #24

It took me a long time to learn the difference between self-discipline and self-punishment.

The Judaeo-Christian tradition has a longstanding belief that God created the world and called it good. Unfortunately, over the centuries the old Aristotelian duality of “spirit good, body bad” has become ingrained, instead. But it’s a great way to keep people under control and buying: “You should feel afraid or inadequate, unless you are using our product.” :scream:

(KM) #25

Apropos of very little, there’s now a whole body deodorant commercial that makes me want to strangle someone. "Body odor (any smell emanating from your skin, anywhere from “your pits to your bits”, but couched in the existing language “BO” which we already identify as Something Bad) is perfectly normal. But If It Bothers You … (the message clearly being it would bother any decent person, but if you’re not one of those, well, you’re entitled to your low class smelly opinion, just go stand somewhere away from everyone else.) Stop making me feel bad to sell me things!!!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #26

I’m too lazy to look up her name, but the author of the book, The Dirt on Clean, a history of bathing from classical antiquity to the present day, had a delightful line in her introduction: “At no point does it appear that the human race ever became too smelly to reproduce.” (Or something like that.) So it’s literally all in the nose of the smeller. :grin:

(Geoffrey) #27

Ultra Processed Foods are “Carbage”. :smirk: