Tell me it isn't so about Coffee! Even Black Coffee

(Consensus is Politics) #21

^^^^^ this ^^^^^

I’m tired of seeing study after study after bleeping study that is irrelevant. You need tons more data OTHER than what you are looking for. You need to find as many variables as you. An that can effect the outcome, not ignore them because they help prove the agenda being pushed.

For instance, back in the late 70’s early 80’s maybe, I remember a study that found nearly 99.9% of people who died of cancer that year had used a telephone at some point in their lives. Ignoring the variables makes it extremely easy to push an agenda.

Quasi-science. Like global warming and ozone holes, and sea levels rising (but only rising in certain refrains).

/dismounts soapbox Chevy Chase style

(LS Conway) #22

I have seen so much back and forth about coffee. I am drinking way more than before since keto and fasting. I have lost weight and y’all scare me. Would I lose more if I drank less coffee? If so, hey I will, if not… I love my coffee!

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #23

I have learned two things from these forums about coffee:

  1. Coffee is bad on keto, because it inhibits ketosis.

  2. Coffee is good on keto, because it stimulates ketosis.

I decided not to worry about it.

Also, the problem with coffee—if any—isn’t with the caffeine content, because no one ever worries about tea or other drinks that contain caffeine, in connexion with a keto diet. So if you decide to give up coffee, you can still get your caffeine from other sources.

(LS Conway) #24

Well that is so true! Tea for the most part gives me indigestion. No idea why. I do love it though! I will say that I need to be drinking more water.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #25

Sorry to hear that!

I get indigestion if I drink a great quantity of coffee, but not when I stick to my usual amount. Tea, on the other hand, doesn’t do that, but it makes my tongue feel leathery if I drink too much. I assume that’s the tannin at work.

(Chuck) #26

I haven’t ever been a coffee drinker and I spent 8 years in the US Navy, but I do drink a lot of unsweetened tea. My wife drinks maybe a quarter cup of designer coffee with a lot of half and half and sweetener. She is a skinny woman 5.6 feet and maybe 130 pounds, she also eats what I call mostly carbs. We have been married 20 years and she hasn’t varied more than 3 pounds in that time. Me on the other hand has yo-yoed from the heaviest of 290 to the lowest of 188, but that was eating the American diet at my doctors recommendation. I have discovered that most people, and doctors don’t think beyond what they were told was the best diet. The revolution will come with people finding for themselves what works for their own health. And I have also learned a simple but expensive lesson. Stay away from diet medicine, and any and all processed foods.

(Robin) #27

If coffee is keeping me fat and since I drink quite a bit, I can’t afford to give it up… as I don’t want to lose more weight.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

#28

I think the effects of coffee must be very individual. I am a stress pot so my cortisol levels could be high, I suppose, but I have no fat at all in the belly area, I didn’t when I was high carb, low fat either. Back then I didn’t drink coffee, just green tea and chamomile. These days I drink 3 mugs of coffee with cream, but it hasn’t had the effect of placing fat in the belly area. Also I still drink green tea and chamomile. I can’t function without caffeine.

I believe the real stress lies in worrying about everything we put into our mouths, leaning too much on science and pouring over articles, although I tend to do this myself, at times. It’s only human. I strongly believe though in following our bodies’ voices. If we’re feeling good … And life is too short is my new mantra, so I’m sticking with my daily bit of heaven - coffee and cream🙂

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #29

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(PJ) #30

Caffeine and nicotine built our modern civilization. People weren’t getting fat regularly until very recently. I’m sure many things contribute including caffeine, however, on the infinite list of things that are imperfect for our on-paper ideal health, at least caffeine has several notable good effects as well. Just depends on what research you feel like reading.

Reminds me of this quip I saw recently –

There are so many ways to improve health, ya know –

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PJ