Isn’t keto antioxidant anyway?
So I've started drinking Matcha (ceremonial grade) green tea
coopdawg
#42
Yes, so it would seem that evidence points that way from your article.
All good news.
The main thrust of your article suggests that a ketogenic diet ‘stimulates the cellular endogenous antioxidant system,’ protecting against various oxidative stresses in various mechanisms by intracellular modulation of metabolites.
To me, in very much lay man’s terms…the author is suggesting that antioxidants are to be a welcome presence for promoting health.
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#43
Oxidation is essential to the proper functioning of the human body. But oxidation does damage, hence the body has also evolved mechanisms to cope with oxidative stress. Insulin, likewise, is essential to our survival; we know that we will die if our pancreas stops making it. But too much insulin causes a number of documented ill effects, not to mention obesity, and so we seek to minimse it.
One of the effects hyperinsulinaemia is that the excess insulin activates a gene complex that shuts off our body’s built-in defences against oxidative stress. Fortunately, when we adopt a ketogenic diet, the ketone body β-hydroxybutyrate turns off that gene complex, thus reactivating our endogenous defences against oxidative stress.
That said, anti-oxidants are useful when there is oxidative stress to deal with. Whether there is any health benefit to having more anti-oxidants than necessary is an unanswered question. Might be deadly, might be benign, might be beneficial. I don’t believe anyone knows for sure.
coopdawg
#44
Aha!
That may be…although one can’t help but take note, of the fact that there are 3 CEREMONIAL SCHOOLS of Oriental green Matcha drinking tradition!!!
Not 1, not 2…but 3!!!
I would that you do not dismiss these facts as mere anecdote…for to do so would be to overlook the wisdom of dynasty after dynasty of tea drinking Samurai.
PaulL
(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?)
#45
The cultural value of tea-brewing as a form of artistic expression, meditation, spirituality, or even religion is a far cry from taking tea as an anti-oxidant, as I am sure any member of the THREE tea-brewing societies could tell you, lol!
Not that they need be mutually exclusive purposes, of course! 
And I am sure that calming down an agitated samurai is a worthy activity in itself. 
coopdawg
#46
If there was only 1 society, it would hardly be pass remarkable.
But the fact there are 3?!?
I’m in!
They’re onto something! I know it. 
Money well spent.
robintemplin
(Robin)
#49
Whoa! Good for you! That’s better than just “back”! You are new and improved!
never2late
#50
I’ve drunk Matcha green tea in the past, but now I just drink pure green tea. I’ve been a tea drinker for years, but since starting keto I’ve also been a coffee drinker. And I still enjoy a cup of chamomile in the evening. I don’t add anything to my green tea, it’s delicious on its own. If you’ve just started drinking green tea it does grow on you. The first time I tasted green tea was many years ago and I thought it was far too bitter. But I persisted, because of the supposed health benefits and now I’m so used to it I don’t go a day without. Whether there’s any benefits I don’t know, but I love the taste now.
coopdawg
#51
Yep. One does definitely develop taste buds for it.
Better than other ‘health beverages’ I think, no matter what the claims of industry on all sides claim.
Each to their own.
JDub
(Jennifer M Worth)
#52
Ceremonial grade matcha is the best kind. They hand separate the plant from what I understand. Dessert grade is what you would get at Starbucks.I agree it tastes like liquidfied grass clippings. That is rather why I like it. Took me a while to get used to the taste but the calm energy is a pretty nice effect.