Should dietary guidelines recommend low red meat intake? Short answer: no!


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(Joey) #25

@amwassil Somewhat challenging on the eyes to read on-screen this way, but finally made my way through and got the gist of the case being made. A nicely cogent argument is presented with plenty to chew on. Thanks again for sharing this piece.


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #26

This is a very interesting article, and the authors make some very cogent points. Well worth the read.

By clicking on the first link in the OP, I was able to navigate to the complete article, and there is a link to download a PDF of it, which I did.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #27

I added the below link here as well. I intend to add it here as soon as I can, since it is very apropos.

This is a very interesting and informative report. Although it dates from 2004 so possibly some points may be superceded. I don’t know.


#28

I find this very interesting.

I have Lync Syndrome and that gives me a very high risk of colon cancer. The doctors of course has warned against red meat… :thinking:


(Joey) #29

@amwassil Thanks for sharing this delightful read. A quick and straightforward piece with many useful citations.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #30

I think the title of this talk is a bit off. Yes, she does talk about how she thinks mental health and diet are related causally. More importantly she talks about the very serious shortcomings of plant based diets for what she terms ‘brain health’ and eating what the brain needs.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #31

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #32

One of the hallmarks of pseudo-science is it never gives up in the face of contrary evidence. It simply ignores if it can, or dismisses as irrelevant or misconstrued when it can’t.

You can download the paper here in .PDF format under the Media Materials > Guideline Paper.


(Bob M) #33

Anyone who has done any research at all in this area would come to the same conclusions. The vast majority of “evidence” against meat is epidemiological evidence, with very small relative risks/hazard ratios/whatever, and primarily based on food frequency questionnaires. The very few RCTs that have been done have been negative. This is an example:

See: http://www.dssimon.com/MM/ACP-red-meat/Red_Meat_Review_Risk_for_All_Cause_Mortality.pdf

It’s only when these are passed through the lens of vegans/Seventh Day Adventists/Harvard that they become “significant”.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #34

:point_up::point_up::point_up::point_up::point_up:


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #35

Here’s the link to the paper online.


(Bunny) #36

Fresh off the press (CNN) 19 hours ago (I guess your post is making head way? …lol)

Red and processed meat are OK to eat, controversial new guidelines claim. Don’t believe it, leading experts say