Should dietary guidelines recommend low red meat intake? Short answer: no!


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6. Conclusions

Although meat has been a central component of the diet of our lineage for millions of years, some nutrition authorities—who often have close connections to animal rights activists or other forms of ideological vegetarianism, such as Seventh-Day Adventism (Banta et al., 2018 Banta, J. E., J. W. Lee, G. Hodgkin, Z. Yi, A. Fanica, and J. Sabate. 2018. The global influence of the Seventh-day Adventist Church on diet. Religions 9 (9):251. doi: 10.3390/rel9090251.[Crossref], [Web of Science ®] , [Google Scholar])—are promoting the view that meat causes a host of health problems and has no redeeming value. We contend that a large part of the case against meat is based on cherry-picked evidence and low-quality observational studies. The bald claim that red meat is an “unhealthy food” (Willett et al., 2019 Willett, Walter, Johan Rockström, Brent Loken, Marco Springmann, Tim Lang, Sonja Vermeulen, Tara Garnett, David Tilman, Fabrice DeClerck, Amanda Wood., et al. 2019. Food in the anthropocene: the EAT-Lancet Commission on healthy diets from sustainable food systems. Lancet 393 (10170):447–92. doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(18)31788-4.[Crossref], [PubMed], [Web of Science ®] , [Google Scholar]) is wildly unsupported.

Based on misrepresentations of the state of the science, some organizations are attempting to influence policy makers to take action to reduce meat consumption. Simplification of complex science increases persuasive power but may also serve ideological purposes and lead to scientistic approaches. According to Mayes and Thompson (2015 Mayes, C. R., and D. B. Thompson. 2015. What should we eat? biopolitics, ethics, and nutritional scientism. Journal of Bioethical Inquiry 12 (4):587–99. doi: 10.1007/s11673-015-9670-4.[Crossref], [PubMed], [Web of Science ®] , [Google Scholar]), manifestations of nutritional scientism in the context of biopolitics can have various ethical implications for “individual responsibility and freedom, concerning iatrogenic harm, and for well-being”. Well-meaning yet overemphasized and premature recommendations may eventually cause more damage than benefit, not only physiologically but also by unjustifiably holding individuals accountable for their health outcomes. We believe that a large reduction in meat consumption, such as has been advocated by the EAT-Lancet Commission (Willett et al., 2019 Willett, Walter, Johan Rockström, Brent Loken, Marco Springmann, Tim Lang, Sonja Vermeulen, Tara Garnett, David Tilman, Fabrice DeClerck, Amanda Wood., et al. 2019. Food in the anthropocene: the EAT-Lancet Commission on healthy diets from sustainable food systems. Lancet 393 (10170):447–92. doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(18)31788-4.[Crossref], [PubMed], [Web of Science ®] , [Google Scholar]), could produce serious harm. Meat has long been, and continues to be, a primary source of high-quality nutrition. The theory that it can be replaced with legumes and supplements is mere speculation. While diets high in meat have proved successful over the long history of our species, the benefits of vegetarian diets are far from being established, and its dangers have been largely ignored by those who have endorsed it prematurely on the basis of questionable evidence.

Acknowledgements

FL acknowledges financial support of the Research Council of the Vrije Universiteit Brussel, including the SRP7 and IOF342 projects, and in particular the Interdisciplinary Research Program ‘Tradition and naturalness of animal products within a societal context of change’ (IRP11).


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(Joey) #25

@amwassil Somewhat challenging on the eyes to read on-screen this way, but finally made my way through and got the gist of the case being made. A nicely cogent argument is presented with plenty to chew on. Thanks again for sharing this piece.


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #26

This is a very interesting article, and the authors make some very cogent points. Well worth the read.

By clicking on the first link in the OP, I was able to navigate to the complete article, and there is a link to download a PDF of it, which I did.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #27

I added the below link here as well. I intend to add it here as soon as I can, since it is very apropos.

This is a very interesting and informative report. Although it dates from 2004 so possibly some points may be superceded. I don’t know.


#28

I find this very interesting.

I have Lync Syndrome and that gives me a very high risk of colon cancer. The doctors of course has warned against red meat… :thinking:


(Joey) #29

@amwassil Thanks for sharing this delightful read. A quick and straightforward piece with many useful citations.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #30

I think the title of this talk is a bit off. Yes, she does talk about how she thinks mental health and diet are related causally. More importantly she talks about the very serious shortcomings of plant based diets for what she terms ‘brain health’ and eating what the brain needs.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #31

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #32

One of the hallmarks of pseudo-science is it never gives up in the face of contrary evidence. It simply ignores if it can, or dismisses as irrelevant or misconstrued when it can’t.

You can download the paper here in .PDF format under the Media Materials > Guideline Paper.


(Bob M) #33

Anyone who has done any research at all in this area would come to the same conclusions. The vast majority of “evidence” against meat is epidemiological evidence, with very small relative risks/hazard ratios/whatever, and primarily based on food frequency questionnaires. The very few RCTs that have been done have been negative. This is an example:

See: http://www.dssimon.com/MM/ACP-red-meat/Red_Meat_Review_Risk_for_All_Cause_Mortality.pdf

It’s only when these are passed through the lens of vegans/Seventh Day Adventists/Harvard that they become “significant”.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #34

:point_up::point_up::point_up::point_up::point_up:


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #35

Here’s the link to the paper online.


(Bunny) #36

Fresh off the press (CNN) 19 hours ago (I guess your post is making head way? …lol)

Red and processed meat are OK to eat, controversial new guidelines claim. Don’t believe it, leading experts say