Say goodbye to LaCroix

(Marie Dantoni) #21

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Hasn’t happened yet.
This is where I usually get water. Just think of all the germs and impurities…

(Running from stupidity) #22

So much this. Ignorance is used as a monetisable weapon, just like that moron “Food Babe” and her “don’t eat anything you can’t pronounce the name of” mantra. What, scary things like Dihydrogen Monoxide?

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

OTOH, I do agree that plain old water is far better for you than stuff like this (assuming you don’t live in Flint).

(Hyperbole- best thing in the universe!) #23

Inflammatory language is a problem. So are phrases like “all natural.” I’m not opposed to all man made ingredients. But clear labeling would be appreciated. Hard to make a cheap profit that way though.

(Carpe salata!) #24

If you’re worried and you like clean fresh water, get a reverse osmosis. I got one and water tastes great!

#25

I sometimes get water from the local artesian spring when no one’s looking. I’ve never seen any rules against it, yet I’m pretty sure it’s not allowed due to the endangered species that live in the stream the spring feeds.

(Marie Dantoni) #26

I am in the catskills, so that isn’t a problem, but I’m trasitioning back to NYC and will probably be buying water again.

(Wendy) #27

Let’s start with limonene. PubChem, the National Institute of Health’s open database for chemical compounds, explicitly callslimonene a “naturally occurring chemical,” and “a major component of oil extracted from citrus peels.” Sounds pretty natural, right? As its name suggests, limonene is commonly used to give foods or other products a lemony flavor and fragrance.
Just copied from the second article. I’m not going to worry about it too much. The amount in these drinks is very small as well and I only drink one or two a day.
When I think of all the garbage I’m not eating anymore this is nothing. There should be a class action suit against vegetable oils and candy before this.

(Wendy) #28

"The three chemicals discussed here can be derived naturally, but even if they are not (and we likely won’t know until the case goes to court), they might simply be used as additives that are supposed to modify the natural flavor compound in some way.

Lastly, Clemens emphasizes, “the term ‘100 percent natural’ does not have a statutory status within the U.S.” It’s a nebulous phrase that can mean whatever you want it to mean. LaCroix has its own interpretation, and just because that doesn’t jive with what you initially thought doesn’t necessarily mean it was fraudulent to consumers. “All-natural” labels exist solely to tempt you into buying stuff. They’re all meaningless, so LaCroix is not unique in this regard. If you want all-natural water, you should stick with the tap (though your results may vary)."
Copied from the same article. I think it explains this well.

(Central Florida Bob ) #29

The golden rule of toxicology is “the dose makes the poison”. The cliched examples are that Oxygen is toxic if the partial pressure goes above 1.6 atmospheres (any SCUBA diver has learned this once) and too much water is toxic.

It’s simply meaningless to say that in high doses limonene can be used to kill bugs. So what? (I think that’s what they’re claiming)

What the zero carb/carnivore movement says is that some people have lower thresholds for those effects than other people. Just like some people have allergic reactions that others don’t. Just like some people’s blood sugar spikes on aspartame and other people’s (like mine) doesn’t. I recall reading that in a study setting the MDR for vitamins, the range required by people varied by 10:1. Some people needed much less or much more than others. Then they always set the MDR beyond the highest minimum measured. There’s no reason to think sensitivity to other compounds used anywhere doesn’t vary by 10:1 as well. In my mind, that means “if it bothers you, don’t drink the LaCroix”.

Somehow, this goes here:

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(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #30

The house we moved into had one of those, we replaced with a home filtering systems. reverse osmosis uses a LOT of water in the processing. Water rates keep going up yearly around here, and it did help our bottom line and the water is really good. We can change it out, don’t have to call the company to replace the bladders and other parts of the RO system either. It was cheaper and healthier than drinking bottled water and no plastic to have to recycle, I took lots of it to work with me.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #31

I’d join a class action suit against those two.

(Carpe salata!) #32

I have the undersink RO that goes up to a separate drinking water spout.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #33

That is what we had as well. We looked at whole house and decided the water quality is fine for washing clothes and cleaning, etc. We just wanted the filtered drinking water, no special pitchers, etc. Takes like less than 10 mins. to change out the fliters we now use. They are way cheaper than the RO filters that were needed every year, and the bladders where very expensive. But lasted about 3 yrs.

#34

You can’t taste liquid air?

#35

Highly recommend Epic Waters Smart Shield undersink filters - one of the few that filters nanoparticles (such as the abundance of hormones/pharmaceuticals that taint municipal water as well as certain groundwater aquifers) - and based in coconut fiber material. Natl Science Federation tested, and very economical - $120 for a household of 4 per year.

Also, RO water is it’s own problematic subject - those systems are super expensive, and they don’t filter nanoparticles, so I’m a big fan of the Smart Shield.

#36

I’ve had RO for years and it’s never been a problem or really that expensive. I know mine is rated to pull out pharmaceuticals and a long list of other crap as well as reducing flouride as much as possible (added that on). To be fair I also have a monster of a system on the whole house before it ever makes it to my RO system.

(J) #37

NYC water is actually quite good. I lived there the vast majority of my life. There is no need to purchase water. If you worry about impurities in the pipes leaching into your tap water, a good filter will produce far less waste than purchasing bottled. Just my $0.02

(Carpe salata!) #38

The water is pretty good here, I just wanted to get out the fluoride and RO is the only thing that will touch that. It’s a bit hard to get good info on water filter performance too. I even tried a distiller for a while but it got a rubber taint from the seals and took a lot of power.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #39

I found this informative.

(Marie Dantoni) #40

Thanks for your input. I will try filtering.