Hey @SarahJustMe, my mistake earlier: 2.9 in the UK is 257 in the US (not 290 like I thought)
Question about triglycerides and keto
lfod14
#22
Did some research and apparently converting mg/dL to mmol/l (or vice versa) doesnāt use the same multipliers when converting cholesterol and triglycerides, makes no sense to me. Not sure why mg/dL to mmol/l conversion has to change but Iām sure a math geek here will know, gotta be a reason. I was doing the conversion same way I have always done it with glucose.
https://heartuk.org.uk/files/uploads/documents/huk_fs_mfsP_cholestrigly_leverlsconversion.pdf
Keto_Newbie
#23
Hey @lfod14 cheers, that checks out
2.9 x 88.5 = 256.65
The episode was unpleasant, but a silver lining is how much weāve learned from you lovely forum folks. Really appreciate it!
Saphire
#24
I second what @chan_cleland said. The fats were probably circulating in your blood. Dave has his own website where he explains cholesterol and other cardiac markers
1 liter a day of non caffeinated beverages is much less than what I drink if I am in full keto. Also check your electrolytes
Tomo
#25
Relationship between mg/dL and mmol/l is dictated by the molecular weights:
- cholesterol 386.65 g/mol
- triglycerides ~890 g/mol (on average, changes with type of fatty acids)
DaveKeto
(Dave)
#26
I literally just did a video on this ā along with proving it directly tooā¦
Doctor Impressed With My Progress
Asad
(Hassan)
#27
I have had a high Trig issue lately although my Trigs were approximately 1 or below in the last few years were i was between LCHF to keto but when i went strict keto for 3 months my Trigs went high to about 3, I have asked this in Dave site ācholesterol codeā and he mentioned its extra energy from excess fat. I also have a pituitary tumor so could that be causing this high Trig?
SarahJustMe
(Sarah )
#28
Iām in no way qualified to answer that. There are so many reasons triglycerides go up and down. My only assessment would be that if you are generally healthy, keep doing what youāre doing and try to be healthier. Health is sooooo complex and each of us has our own natural variations, things that our bodies ar e better or worse at. Like insulin and carbs. Or stable moods. Or any number of things keto helps with. Try to support your own health and donāt hyper focus on one number that may or may not even matter. Maintaining weight energy circulation, eat fresh foods, not smoking or abusing substances, keeping your activity level up, getting enough sleepā¦ all way more important than one small number. If it continues to stay high in a year, revisit.
SarahJustMe
(Sarah )
#29
And if you are convinced that your triglycerides are a sign of a deeper serious issue, only a Dr can do the types of testing and evaluation that you want
collaroygal
(KCKO, KCFO š„„)
#31
Thanks Dave, this is an awesome video. My dr. did a NRM test for me earlier this month. She told me to fast at least 12 hrs. I now have more confidence that my results are a good indicator of my current biomarkers.
Keto_Newbie
#32
Hi @SarahJustMe @MiKetoAF @Shallimar @chan_cleland
Really glad you were here to give your suggestions. Quick update in case its useful for others in the same situation in the future:
- booked a fasting triglyceride blood test to get a clearer reading
- Endo now found aldosterone to be high (and renin to be normal). This combo indicates that the cause of the high aldosterone is not likely to be the adrenals or kidneys (as I understand it).
- high trigs and high aldost would not be an uncommon combination. If hypertension were involved.
Sadly it has already come up with my GP that I stop Keto and cut back on fat 
And I am not at all in the typical profile for high ald: I have low end of normal BP, low end of normal BMI, non-smoker, more or less non drinker, no family history. For the last six+ months I have been unable to exercise or have normal mobility due to hypersomnia and extreme muscle weakness.
I started Keto as a pro-active way to try to help myself while the docs work on the other stuff. I really really hope I dont have to stop it, just to be safe with the trig scores.
Fingers crossed, and thanks!
Shallimar
(Trish)
#33
Thanks for the update. Iām not really sure what to make of it all as i donāt know anything about aldosterone and/or renin, but the tiredness and muscle weakness make me think of some other things.
Myasthenia gravis, MS, myotonic dystrophy or something as simple as a food allergy has been known to cause these. My son can sleep round the clock and gets muscle aches when he eats wheat.
What other tests did they do?
brownfat
(Todd Allen)
#34
Donāt forget to fast this time before the test. 12 hours fasted is the typical recommendation and 14 or 16 is often considered ok.
brownfat
(Todd Allen)
#35
Also, you might consider taking vitamin B3, aka niacin/nicotinic acid before taking statins.
http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2007/3/atd/page-01
Shallimar
(Trish)
#37
Yup and niacin is also good for depressive symptoms which chronic fatigue and weakness could also be symptoms of.
brownfat
(Todd Allen)
#39
I should have added previously that a good B-complex vitamin supplement might also be worth taking for fatigue and weakness as most of the B vitamins play critical roles in supporting metabolism and muscle function. There are several known genetic variations, a couple somewhat common, such as MTHFR, which interfere with the conversion of the commonly used precursor forms of these vitamins so seeking out a supplement with the activated/methylated forms of B6, B9, and B12 might be helpful.
atomicspacebunny
(Bunny)
#40
This (same exact symptoms) happened to me too while at a VA Hospital (such a coincidence lol) with a friend who was getting Angioplasty for calcified arteries in the legs. It came, then it went away! So strange? My theory is that I had slacked off taking the unfortified nutritional yeast, powdered wheat grass, and also eating Kale recommended by Dr. Eric Berg?
Note: ā¦still researching this!
1 (one) of many possibilities (below)?
Vitamin B12 Requirement
If vitamin B12 deficiency becomes pronounced, the nervous system can be affected, causing progressive peripheral neuropathy (tingling of the fingers and toes), muscle weakness, staggering, tenderness in the calves, confusion.
āā¦Vitamin B12 can not be absorbed on its own: it must first combine with another substance called āintrinsic factorā which is produced by your stomach lining. B12 from foods is released from its protein complex by the action of hydrochloric acid and enzymes. The secreted intrinsic factor then binds to B12 and this complex (IF-B12) travels to the end of the small intestine where it crosses the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. B12 is stored in the liver after it is absorbed, and any excess is excreted in the urine. The body contains roughly a 3-year supply and 30% of that found in food is typically destroyed by cooking.
Causes and Development
The most common cause of B12 deficiency the stomach being unable to produce enough intrinsic factor. This is frequently caused by an immune system problem where antibodies attack the stomach lining and damage the cells that produce intrinsic factor.
Another cause is the bowel failing to absorb vitamin B12 because it has been damaged by disease (e.g. Crohnās disease) or shortened by surgery (usually to treat bowel disease). B12 is absorbed by the part of the bowel called the ileum, so surgery to remove the ileum (an ileostomy) is quite likely to cause B12 deficiency.
Although it is also possible to become deficient in B12 by not eating enough food that contains the vitamin, this is rare.
Diagnosis and Tests
A laboratory test can measure the level of vitamin B12 in the blood. A test for low stomach acid (achlorhydria) is an important part of the investigation, and a blood test that shows the typical changes in the red blood cells is also essential. ā¦More