NYT a article today re Ozempic

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #21

Of course, anyone who paid “extra careful attention to healthy eating” would probably not need the drug in the first place, especially for certain values of “healthy eating.”

(Joey) #22

Game-Set-Match. :+1:

(Robin) #23

MY POINT EXACTLY! Such hypocrisy!

(icky) #24

Hi @lfod14 - just curious… I keep hearing that if people use Semaglutide to lose weight then they have to keep taking it “for the rest of their lives”. What’s your understanding of that? Is it true? Do you know why that’s considered to be necessary?

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #25

Part of it is that the weight returns fairly quickly after stopping the drug, and it returns as fat–the lost muscle is very difficult to replace. Another problem is that the gastroparesis the drug causes can be permanent, and that too causes problems when the drug is stopped. And lastly, studies have shown that there is an extremely strong negative correlation between the number of people stopping medications and the amounts of the bonuses pharmaceutical companies can pay their top executives.

(icky) #26

:laughing:

#27

Zero truth to it, that came from the people that came off, usually due to price, and then started rapidly gaining weight, but that’s because they never fixed their diets, they just used the Semaglutide to cheat it off from reduced appetite the whole time, so when they came off, nature (and their bad eating habits) took it’s course.

Me and my Wife have stopped a handful of times, sometimes for months, nothing happens because I track my macros and know my actual TDEE, but if I didn’t, my appetite would be in control (bad idea) and I’d regain.

Same goes for “Ozempic Face” which is just people wasting away muscle from lack of protein. Nobody wants to address that the doc’s never bring up nutrition, but as we know, because they can’t address something they don’t understand in the first place.

(icky) #28

Thanks for the feedback - and yeah, this is what I assumed… But when you hear reports about it on TV and stuff, people talking about it sound so adamant that “you must take this forever” and it made me wonder if there was some special chemical process going on that would result in a terrible mess if you stopped taking it…

#29

Nope, that’s because if they tell you it’s not even a drug at all, but just a peptide that your body makes naturally, it makes it really hard to charge that premium for it, which is why there’s more people buying it online than going bankrupt on name brand Ozempic!

(Joey) #30

I’ve learned a good bit reading about your approach and wish I could convince friends taking Ozempic to get themselves up this learning curve.

Sadly, I know that’s not going to happen. Hence, they’re simply taking a pill.

You and your wife have produced excellent results applying deep knowledge and a discipline to manage the drug/diet as opposed to allowing it to manage you.

The fact that most folks aren’t willing to take control of their poor eating habits strikes me as the fundamental danger in how these newly fashionable “obesity” drugs are likely to play out…

I anticipate there’s going to be crying.

Buying these Rx stocks and trying to sell before more lawsuits hit would be like playing in traffic.