Need low carb tips


(Chris Kornelsen) #21

So I’ve posted many times about this but I’ll give a run down. I started keto 6 months ago. I started with heavy veggie whole food keto. So under 20g but tons of veggies and meat. Digestion got way worse I went from having an IBS attack 3 times a year to twice a month and constant bloating. No grains no breads.

Next I did low veggie. Improved bloating but same digestive issues.

Next was carnivore about 2 months ago. No bloating or gas. Same digestive issues and no energy and muscle cramps.

So now I’m at my wits end as I seem to be the 1% of people that keto doesnt help digestivly. So I’m trying low carb. From what I’ve learned there is zero carb, keto, low carb, moderate carb and high carb. I’d put 100g or less as low carb. And I’ve also heard low carb is often the optimal human diet (blue zones).

I’m not one tk believe that one diet fits all. My grandparents ate high fat high meat and butter and breads and patatoes and lived to 90. Same with my wife’s grandparents. Also almost every human culture and civilization had meats and carbs in some way or another (while heavier on the meat and fat end and also seasonal).

I very highly believe in keto and I’m not against it in any way in fact I wish I could continue and maybe if I figure out my digestion I will. But for now I’m gonna experiment with adding in fermented bread and fruits to simulate my diet before keto (minus all the crap and shit) and see if that helps me.


(Chris Kornelsen) #22

No quite as cult like as kick you out for being on the exact same diet but slightly varied hah. If your not"bury head in sand and eat meat" you dont belong hah


(hottie turned hag) #23

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(Joey) #24

@Chris_Kornelsen Thank you for clarifying.

Sounds like if you’re right indeed that you are one of those unique individuals then the “crowd” wisdom available on this forum might not be particularly helpful.

As such, continuing your self-experimentation will likely be the only way to ever really figure out what will work best for your digestive system.

It’s possible that you might be having reaction(s) to specific foods (i.e., allergic reactions or inability to properly tolerate) as opposed to whole categories of macronutrients (carbs vs protein vs fat). So perhaps you might narrow your focus of self-experimentation by eliminating certain specific menu items and seeing what happens - while holding all other variables constant?

Meanwhile, best wishes for your improved comfort in enjoying your meals!


#25

I went low-carb about 9 years ago, I feel quite good under 80g net carbs. I go higher sometimes but I immediately feel worse so it’s very short lived. 80-100g is my upper limit, I must stay below or face the negative consequences. Our sweet spots vary. Mine is about 30-80g but the lower limit gets smaller. Some people feels good only way below mine and some people seemingly needs way more. No one knows what works for you best.
Good carbs? People think various things about it. For many carnivores, all plants are bad. There are personal sensitivities. To me, net carbs matter the most but I like to avoid plain sugars and lactose (I like to keep them super low, not exactly zero).
When I went low-carb, I stopped eating legumes (except green peas, I never really abandoned those lovely things but they almost disappeared on keto), I ate close to no grains, no processed stuff and I avoided lactose too. It worked for me, I lost much fat and felt WAY better and my insane overeating stopped. But I can’t know how you would feel, I think it’s worth to try. I kept my vegetables back then, mostly the lower-carb ones and the most important carby ones in small amounts. 80g net carbs isn’t very much but enough if I spend most my carbs on low-carb vegetables, I ate my usual veggie dishes then and they fit into my carb limit if I didn’t go overboard with the amounts (but it was easy enough not to do that even for me, the huge veggie lover who almost never ate meat). It was nice but I had to evolve. 150g is way more, easier to fit the super carby legumes and grains but it’s more like a normal diet then. It’s great if you just cut out sugar and plain flour but if you can do it, it’s probably a good idea to be a bit more strict. 80g was super easy for me but yep, I saw people very miserable with 150g net carbs or just without gluten… So it’s very individual.
Bread definitely wouldn’t fit my low-carb diet unless it’s some thin pizza or lower-carb bread. And anyway, I would never consider it “good carb”. But I don’t have “good carbs”. Maybe the carbs in my eggs? :smiley: If I eat many carbs, it’s bad for me, no matter what I eat, many of us here are like this I’m sure. So you should try them out and see if they work for you, in what amounts and if they are worth it… I eat carby items, even very sugary ones sometimes (even on keto) but in very tiny amounts and that’s better than a mountain of low-carb vegetables with its huge carb content.
And if it’s about carb sources, I personally like nuts a lot… There are more or less carby ones but a huge amount isn’t good for everyone, to put it lightly, not even for me and I am really not very sensitive. Again, I can’t have any idea what your body will react to those, we humans are different…

I know about nothing about digestion issues but legumes don’t sound good, they are usually hard to digest and often don’t feel quite good for healthy people either. Listen to your body, maybe?


#26

Sweet Potatoes, Oatmeal, more carbs from veggies etc. What digestion problems were you having and what did you start eating to alleviate it? Your answer is in there somewhere.