Lifelong Effects of Eating Disorders on the Metabolism

(Bunny) #21

…or still in the process of doing so?

  1. I found resistant starch type II (produces ketones in the gut) helps break the plateau. Start out with very little (a small pinch) and then increase the amount weekly. But not too much, lots of info on the .WWW on how to do that!

  2. Increase your consumption of complex carbohydrates (Whole Foods/Organic/Non-GMO) esp. with exercise or weight lifting to satiety, don’t count anything. Your metabolism is slowing down (incl. the sex hormones) and your body is in constant survival mode because your restricting your caloric intake. And also eat dietary fat to satiety (your body knows how much fat it wants to eat incl. protein just like it knows how much water to drink when it is thirsty). Keep the dietary protein intake moderate.

  3. Exercise your gluteus maximus (resistants in contrast to exactly what you weigh now and drop the amount of weight your lifting or resistance your placing against it like resistance bands along with the weight your losing) more often but not too much if you want to turbo boost your weight loss, this takes time to do so you have to keep doing it consistently. Start out every 10 days. Then 5 and in reasonable reps and so on…

(Erin Macfarland ) #22

Thanks @SlowBurnMary! @Jennc714 my suggestion for you would be to eat when hungry, and base your meals around foods you find most satiating. I did experience dealing with a restrictive eating disorder while eating keto. The disorder was not related to eating this way (it was triggered by life stresses, and I’d already been LCHF for quite some time before then.) I have a history of disordered eating but have finally reached a place, after I’d regained some weight, then leveled out, where I feel totally free of the fears and neurosis that plagued me for years around food. It’s very important you don’t send the message to your body that food is in short supply. Keto is great for balancing hunger hormones, stabilizing mood, improving body composition and obviously for metabolic health. But you need to make sure you’re eating this way for the right reasons. It’s a commitment to health that should last a lifetime, and you need to figure out an approach that’s sustainable and enjoyable. Of course it’s nice to have the benefit of weight loss, but that cannot be your primary reason for eating this way. That being said, trying different macros/foods can sometimes shift things towards gradual fat loss. For example, increasing protein/decreasing fat or vice versa. Or eating more beef and less chicken (more saturated vs unsaturated fats). Whatever you try, Be honest with yourself- mental health is just as important as physical health! :blush:

(Katie) #24

A simple fact (you can look it up…studies abound)… your energy
Level goes UP starting about the second day of a fast.

The only person from all those contestants on Biggest Loser who regained a normalized metabolism was the one who had a gastric bypass after regaining all that weight…essential a sever limit on food intake.

Btw… big lawsuit going on because caloric deficit eating does mess up metabolism… but, complete fasting does not. This is why I intermix fasting…because I keep eating at a deficit

I have heard lots of people lately say…”yeah, but I am different”. Huh? So, you do not have a human medical system? You do not have the same liver, intestines, metabolic path ways, etc as the rest of us?

(Peter) #25

Have you bothered to read any of the posts here, or are you just cutting and pasting pro-fasting stuff? OP has/had an ED, it makes a significant difference despite your “we’re all people” rubbish. You need to get off your one size fits all hobby horse.

(Windmill Tilter) #26

Again, this is partially true but incorrect when applied to fasting on a serial basis. This increase in RMR on the second day has occurred in one study that I’m aware of, but it was using subjects who had never done an extended fast before. No one has ever published data on subjects who water fasted more than once. I’ll repeat that because it’s an important point: no one has ever published data on subjects fasting on an extended basis for a second time…

I know of only 2 people who own indirect calorimeters (such as those used in clinics and for metabolic research) to track resting metabolic rate, and who also do extended fasting on a serial basis. I’m one of them. @primal.peanut is the other.

We both had similar experiences. We both have done dozens of extended fasts. My weekly fasts were ~84hrs, and his were ~120hrs. In both our cases our metabolisms adapted such that RMR drops precipitously when fasting begins, and increases (in his case dramatically) when feasting begins.

In other words, data derived from studies in which people fast for the first time can’t be generalized to people who fast on a serial basis. This doesn’t mean that fasting isn’t a safe and effective means of weight loss, but there is no evidence available in the medical literature that examines the effects of extended fasting more than once. Personally, I find it safe, effective and I still do it every week.

#27

Extreme bulimic here, for over 30 years - I’m now liberated from it with keto - I’m well nourished, strong, a healthy weight, and I can keep bingeing under control (I still need to be vigilant though). Damage from my EDs - I now have bad osteoporosis and poor digestion. My metabolism seems ok however - I have low and stable BG, a good level of BKs and can fast (OMAD or slightly longer) with ease.