Life after keto?


(John) #21

Or strawberries, which are very high in vitamin C and yet fit into a Keto diet.

When I started this, I looked at all of the widely recommended “safe” diets as well. There are certain core components of all of them. They all say cut out sugars, starches, refined foods, processed foods, and focus on real foods that you prepare yourself from fresh ingredients, with healthy proteins, healthy fats, and healthy carbs. Where they differ is the percentages, and in some instances what constitutes “healthy carbs” and “healthy fats.”

There seem to be extreme viewpoints on all sides, and crazy tangents that people follow. Whatever works for them.

I am trying to stay somewhat in the middle ground, based on things actually recommended by real doctors that are not too far out on the quack ends of the spectrum. So for example, Westman’s page 4 food list. Where it specifically requires 2 cups of leafy greens, and 1 cup of above-ground low carb veggies. And the recommendations from Dietdoctor.com, which essentially says you can have all of the leafy greens you want.

That’s working well for me. I feel better with some carbs in my day.

I have a while to go before I get to what I consider a maintenance weight, but when I do get there I plan to adjust the macros to a little lower fat, and a little higher carbs, while staying within the same general foods I eat now. Just adjusting the quantities. So I probably won’t go back to bread, potatoes, rice, and sweets, but I may have more broccoli, salads, cauliflower and maybe less butter. I’ll test it out when I get there.


#22

And just who do pull for during tailgating season?

Geaux Tigers!


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #23

I have a feeling if you headed over to the Atkins website (but come right back :grin:) you could find folks who have been eating very low carb for years and years. They are out there. This forum is younger than that old diet but they are both ketogenic diets.


(Allan Misner) #24

Southern Miss

Respect the Tigers because they will play us. Would respect them more if they’d play us in Hattiesburg.


#25

USM is my favorite team in Mississippi. Easy choice. But you know we’ll never make it to Hattiesburg. To much money to be made in Tiger Stadium.


#26

I was on Atkins in the early 2000s and did well but couldn’t sustain it. Lack of support forums like this allowed you to easily fall off. Now I know not only what and how but the why of it all.


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #27

I was also on Atkins in 1998 and stayed low carb and maintained my weight for many years. Then I had a back injury that the docs threw a bunch of pain meds at and I got addicted for a few years. Getting sober drove me to the sugar, then after I packed on about 60 lbs I got diagnosed with cancer and was put on steroids for a year which blew me up even more. Started at 160 and ended up at 240ish. I’m thankful for Atkins for introducing me to low carb and SO thankful for this community making it something I don’t have to do alone, like the first time.


#28

All I had in the beginning of Atkins was his book. Support was practically nonexistent. Even Keto can be learned from a book. But the infinite little tips and anecdotal evidence you pick up here are both encouraging and instructive. Real people living in a real world offer invaluable insight. And I won’t even go into the unreal support I get with Extended Fasting on this forum.


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #29

I have a “new” shitty old copy of Atkins I picked up at a thrift store before I started this go around. Then I discovered “keto” and found this forum. Good fortune!


(Carl Keller) #30

1 cup broccoli = 135% of the RDA for vitamin C.
1 cup brussels sprouts = 124% of the RDA for vitamin C.
1 cup cauliflower = 85% of the RDA for vitamin C.

I think it’s much more difficult to eat the suggested amounts of potassium and magnesium. Although I suspect the recommendations for potassium are way overrated and inflated.

But don’t mind me if you are speaking in terms of the carnivore diet.


#31

According to Nina Teicholz, Dr Eric Westman was the first researcher / doctor to take up Atkin’s invitation to study everything he was doing. Westman must’ve liked what he saw, he’s been on Atkins/Keto/LCHF, call it whatever you want, ever since. About 20 years.

But yeah I reckon there’ll be some real ol’ timers in that crowd. They were doing this in the 60s and 70s.


#32

My husband started with the Atkins diet, ‘induction’ phase. The funny thing was he said he never moved past the induction phase and continued with the induction until now 10+ years later. He considers himself ‘keto’ now and is amazed there’s a whole following for the induction phase(Atkins) and is far more advanced than I am. His weight loss was radical (160lbs over 2-3 years). He does go for regular blood tests every six months. The only time it returned with an issue was with higher cholesterol than usual. I think eating a healthy (more wholesome) variety of fats and meats is important but for us, dairy such as whipping cream, was the tipping point and not useful to us. We don’t eliminate dairy but we have reduced it quite a lot.