Keto with a twist?

[LeCheffre]

Exactly. The protocols are generally written based on clinical observation in the case of Atkins, Protein Power, or on observed research, like Volek and Team UCONN and Team Duke. Or on aggregate studies and research in the case of Taubes.

Everyone is a unique snowflake. But a lot of people are average snowflakes who will see results with protocols as written. And a lot of people need tweaks. But need to start with the basics.

[Madeleine]

Meat and fat usage was year round, mainly because pemmican, the main storage method, lasted literally for years when sewn into rawhide bags. That’s mainly why the paleo macro is 60/35/5%. Technically, you could add fruit/berries for a few months, but that would cause fat gain, which was beneficial back then, but obviously not now. So, in reality, you’d only add in Carb based foods at levels above the 5% macro with one goal in mînd, the creation of body fat

All this is covered on Beyondveg.com. I suggest paying attention to the science of strontium analysis and how it’s able to determine what people actually ate by bone and teeth analysis. This debunks much of the “fauxpaleo” assertions.

Thanks. I’ll take a look - but it still sounds like a lot of focus on one particular ecosystem, and though cultivated sweet potatoes weren’t around, I think that there were plenty of other sources of carbs (Hunter gatherers in the Amazon eat lots of yucca, for instance; the Hadza eat quite a bit of honey and tubers). But I’ll look at your links when I get a moment.

[Madeleine]

Meat and fat usage was year round, mainly because pemmican, the main storage method, lasted literally for years when sewn into rawhide bags. That’s mainly why the paleo macro is 60/35/5%. Technically, you could add fruit/berries for a few months, but that would cause fat gain, which was beneficial back then, but obviously not now. So, in reality, you’d only add in Carb based foods at levels above the 5% macro with one goal in mînd, the creation of body fat

All this is covered on Beyondveg.com. I suggest paying attention to the science of strontium analysis and how it’s able to determine what people actually ate by bone and teeth analysis. This debunks much of the “fauxpaleo” assertions.

@240lbfatloss
Can you point me to more specific support for that one specific ratio? I’ve looked at a lot of the writing on the link, and it’s very interesting - but I see reference to sticks for digging yams, tuber storage, etc (along with a very different macro profile for Aboriginal groups, though perhaps that can’t be traced exactly to a specific time period).

I’m sensitive to this question because it’s one of the main arguments thrown at ancestral eating (something along the lines of “there’s not Paleo diet because there was no ONE Paleo diet, duh” but it’s a total straw man because no one serious in the ancestral community would ever claim that there was ONE ancestral diet).

But I’ve seen plenty of your interesting, knowledgeable posts on here so I’m not inclined to dismiss your assertions out of hand.