Is a Keto Diet safe for someone with advanced atherosclerosis?

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(Phil) #41

I’m getting a second stress test with imaging to confirm it’s not a false positive. As expected the new cardiologist also wants my LDL drastically lower (LDL 188). I’m trying Berberine, Red Yeast Rice, Policosanols for six weeks. I’d rather do that than 40mg Lipitor. Still not convinced that my LDL is the problem, but I can’t know for sure.
Obviously something caused the 979 calcium score. Feeling great on a Keto Lifestyle, eating more coconut oil since the AHA and a Harvard Professor said that coconuts are poison.


Although it is true that they can kill you.

(Shirley W Wilkinson) #42

Where do you live ?

(Phil) #43

San Diego

#44

Red yeast rice is just a natural source of lovastatin.

(Phil) #45

Yes ………. I would prefer to lower LDL with a natural source if possible.
I’m interested in seeing the results in 6 weeks.

(Victoria Powell) #46

This sounds pretty dangerous to me, and note it is for peripheral artery disease and invasive for sure. Not that you wouldn’t try it to save an extremity…

#47

Your incorrect. There is more than enough conclusive evidence that a plant based diet halts and reverses heart disease.

Here’s a Ted Talk from Dr. Michael Greger MD (undergrad at Cornell University and Tufts School of medicine grad):

Ted talk from Dr. Dean Ornish (the cardiologist that treated president Clinton for his heart disease):

At Montfiore in NYC they are using a plant based diet to reverse hear disease in patients and they published 2 case studies of patients reversing congestive heart failure with a plant based diet:

there’s tons of science, since 1998, on how plant based diets reverse heart disease; new studies are showing that your “good” bacteria, that make hear protecting chemicals like cellulose (which is only found in fruits and veggies

Medicare and some other insurances are paying for the Ornish heart reversal program (where they put patients a plant based diet and other lifestyle changes) because it is cheaper and more effective than paying for repeated stenting and bypass surgeries

(Bunny) #48

Eating an all meat diet seems clear that up surprisingly.

Meat is very acidic so it cleans up, leaches or lifts the calcium or arterial plaque off the walls of the arteries.

All meat diets are very therapeutic in that respect.

Phosphorus (your bones and teeth) always opposes calcium in a high sugar/glucose diet so the calcium sticks to your veins and arteries rather than going to your bones and teeth were it belongs.

Neat stuff!

You may want to eat grass fed meat to get the vitamin K and get more sunlight on your skin for Vitamin D, the sunlight (ultra violet radiation) transforms the cholesterol in your skin to Vitamin D, and if eating low a sugar diet chances of skin cancer are reduced significantly.

Add cold extracted cod liver oil to the above (not exposed to light) and you will clear up that high calcium score back to 0?

(Phil) #49

It’s been established that calcium is a stabilizing factor in plaque. If calcium is removed from the plaque it can become unstable. Unstable plaque is far more likely to cause a heart attack. Are you planning on having a follow up CT Calcium test at some future time to monitor progression?

(Bunny) #50

That would probably be true if you tried to use some type of medication to do it artificially, rather than naturally?

(Phil) #51

It’s seems to be true even if someone is not on medication. Statins will actually increase a calcium score, the ‘hypothesis’ being that it is making the plaque more stable. It seems like a calcium score is not necessarily connected to risk, if one has a high calcium score and no unstable plaque. Knowing density and volume is extremely valuable in assessment. I agree that D3 and an anti Inflammatory diet are important. ‘Unfortunately’ getting a CT Score back to zero is not realistic. I would not be so sure that an all meat diet protects a person from athrosclorosis. If that is the diet you on I would advise getting a CT Calcium Test.

(Ellenor Bjornsdottir) #52

Short of porphyrias, why wouldn’t it be, especially if you are already stabilised on it?

(Bunny) #53

Some people on the forum actually reversed there calcium score (athrosclorosis) with a ketogenic diet or meat only diet.