I'm not stalling...I haven't even budged to start with (Haven't lost either pounds or inches!)

#41

Can you tell me what signs did you have when your thryoid was hypofunctioning apart from gaining/not losing weight?

I will get a full hormonal panel in a couple of weeks. But I really hope my thryoid has nothing wrong with it, and if it has, that there are solutions other than medications, as I have a confirmed history of idiosyncrasy with meds (I invariably get almost no pharmaceutical effect and some serious side effects from anything I take…for instance, a tablet of vicodin after oral surgery did nothing for my pain and had me in projectile vomiting for almost 48 hours…and the list goes on…)

But apart from not losing weight or inches on keto (and before that with my usual methods), I don’t seem to have any other hypothyoidism signs. My energy is high, my mood is even, my skin, hair, eyebrows are not showing any thinning, my periods are regular…etc. But we’ll see what the panel says.

#42

I’ll sure look him up! And thanks for the tip about “swooshes” and “stalls”. Heading there right now. :-):smiley:

#43

Just wanted to report that I went through a week of IF (16/8) and lost a couple of pounds…only to put them right back the very next two days I ate a 1400 calorie day 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fat, putting me back exactly where I started. It’s been two months now since I started keto and I’m starting to wonder if I’m in ketosis at all (let alone fat adapted).

Really getting discouraged.

(Adam Kirby) #44

Ketosis doesn’t necessarily translate to weight loss. You could burn nothing but large quantities of dietary fat and be in heavy ketosis. If you have stable energy and can go the day with only eating 1 or 2 meals that’s a good sign you’re fat adapted. Again, though, not necessarily a sign you are burning body fat, just fat in general. Unfortunately, based on your height and weight I would say you’re in the realm of “cosmetic” fat loss, which may make it harder than someone who has 100s of pounds to lose. Some approaches I can think of are 1) carnivory, 2) one meal a day, 3) fat-supplemented fast. I think periodic over-eating (feasting) is also a critical component to preventing long term metabolic drop. Your body may be extremely thrifty with the energy you are giving it.

#45

I have gradually put on ten pounds in the last few years during a time of extraordinary stress and reliance on “convenient” food, after so long of being stable at 130-132 pounds. To start, it was easy to pull back and shed most of the extra weight. Then in this past year, I put on another extra five pounds, and nothing seem to work to lose either the new weight or the older one. Whatever I do, it seems my body considers it maintenance.

Can you give me more details on the above? Apart from carnivory, as main problem with keto is I can’t bring myself to eat red meat in any form? Is the one meal a day a very high calorie one…meaning I eat all my calories during that meal, or is it a usual meal, so that I also end up with calorie restriction? And is the fat-supplemented fast basically like drinking BPC or the equivalent of that fat content during the fast? And is it an extended one, not intermittent? As for the over-eating, does that include carb ups, or just a higher calorie keto diet?

It no doubt looks like that. As I said, it seems to consider anything I give it maintenance, or excess.

(Shayne) #46

just a quick note on the thyroid question you posed above - my TSH is in the middle of the range, but my Dr is testing my free T3 because the sides of my tongue are ridged indicating that it’s too big for my mouth. He says that’s a sign (in addition to being weight loss resistant).

#47

That happened to me too! Drove me nuts as I like sleeping late and being up late! I even posted about it. The worst part was when I was forced to be up late for work and then could sleep in, I could not. I was tired but not as exhausted as I would otherwise be. I do have more energy.

It seems to have passed somewhat after 9 months on keto. I am not able to stay up as late as usual but I no longer want to go to sleep at 11 and I can usually sleep in again. I did lose about 30 lbs on IF/Keto but have been losing very slowly since September (4-7 lbs). I still have at least 40 lbs to lose or more

#48

My husband had to quit heavy cream to break a plateau.

#49

You’re the first one I found who said they turned from night owl to early bird on keto!!! (Though I’m not VERY early, as I wake up past eight am, but since I work from home, I always woke up past noon—sometimes WAY past noon, and usually sleeping sometime before dawn or sometimes way past it. But sleeping around midnight was certainly unheard for me ALL my life)

I actually like it, as it makes me coexist with the rest of the world around me, so no complaints there, and I hope it doesn’t pass!:open_mouth:

#50

Hmmm, this is the one thing that makes me able to have any hot drinks now, and hot drinks are my crutch while I’m working. But I’ll give it a shot, at least to see if I’ll start losing without it. Thanks for the suggestion!

(Dameon Welch-Abernathy) #51

As did I. Only time I have it now is during a window where I am eating.

(Dameon Welch-Abernathy) #52

I found I acquired a taste for coffee without cream over time. Hope the same happens for you.

#53

I actually don’t like coffee at all, even with cream. I’m a tea person. I tried the BPC at first, and no matter what, I couldn’t bear its taste. It was even worse with sweeteners. I now take all kinds of tea (green and herbal) straight. But I used to take black tea with sugar (it was my main hot beverage and I drank LOTS of it per day) and I can’t even BEAR the taste of sweeteners like stevia or erythritol in it, but I also can’t drink it straight. So I now drink it with almond milk and HWC, most days considering a big mug of it my breakfast, then have my first meal around 2. With the hunger issue, fasting longer than that hasn’t been easy for me. Oh, and I also take HWC occassionally in hot cocoa, too.

Any other suggestions for hot drinks when I stop HWC to see if it’s the reason for my stall?

(Todd Allen) #55

Maybe focus more on stress management and/or stress reduction, maximizing sleep quality, expanding the varieties of activity/exercise you get and reducing exposures to toxins. All of these factors impact health and metabolism. The more any of them are out of whack the harder it can be to obtain good results through diet.

#56

Are all these drinks ready made? With sweeteners? Any that don’t have an overpowering aftertaste?

#57

I have been focusing on exactly that, and getting much better sleep. I’ve also added much more resistance exercises and introduced suspension exercises into my routine. I think I’ve always been reasonably good about exposure to toxins, as I don’t eat any processed food, drink or smoke or take any medications. What other toxins should I be looking out for?

#59

I see all recipes contain stevia or swerve, and I’ve tried both and can’t stand them in drinks. I can bear erythitol in some desserts, but drinks are where I can’t stand any sweetener, including monk fruit, and even the sukrin products. I wonder if this aversion would ever go away?

(Todd Allen) #60

My health was terrible and I went all in trying to find and do everything I might to help. I’ve been successful, but the downside of my approach is that I don’t have much of a sense of which factors are truly helpful and which are a waste of effort or money. Anyway, here are some of the things I’ve done with regard to toxin exposures.

Stopped using plastic dishes, cups, utensils, food storage containers, etc.
Stopped using teflon pans.
Stopped cooking foods in ways that crisp, brown, blacken or char and avoid overheating fats, especially oils.
Stopped using refined vegetable oils and avoid food products with them.
Take care to avoid rancidity in high fat foods such as nut and seed butters, oils, etc. Store cool and dark and watch expiration dates.
Minimize/avoid industrial ag products as much as possible.
Avoid farmed seafood.
Avoid seafood high in the food chain and seafood from polluted waters, especially bottom feeders.
Put in an under the sink reverse osmosis water filtration system.
Stopped using most household cleaners and chemicals, switched to baking soda, vinegar, alcohol, etc.
Stopped using most commercial toiletries and personal care products such as toothpaste, lotions, sunscreen, deodorants, mouthwash, etc.
Removed carpets, rugs, furniture, draperies, sheets, pillows and clothing with synthetic fibers and foams.
Use appropriate respirators and ventilation when painting, using adhesives, stains, urethane, sanding, grinding, welding, etc. and selecting products with minimal risks.

#61

That’s a great list!

(Have been doing all that for about three decades - except the reverse osmosis which I have a different view of).

(Andrew) #62

What a nutter. Oh wait, I do all of that. Damn, I’m a nutter too.

I think most of those products are just bullshit or are unsustainable. Hell I don’t like to use soap even. Handy when you are actually dirty though. Don’t forget to skip all the fluoride…