How should one return to normal healthy diet after three months of Keto?

(smilekapoor) #21

Merci CFrance!
Indeed , I am not and never going to rebel from the community due to the seer experience I got through it.
However, it feels that how much folks are concerned for fellow Keto companion. Feels great!

@Q66, I respect your response. As you said need to find a balance for a ‘Healthy Lifestyle’.

@atomicspacebunny, Thanks for the response.

@CarlKeller, Thanks a lot for advice.

@Bellyman, I promise - not going to eat junk food like before anymore. Even if I have to eat to please my friends, just a slice of pizza sometimes… once in a blue moon :wink: And, will avoid alcohols as like now being in Keto.

@PaulL, I promise that not going back to eat carbs like before I had experienced Keto. I will be ‘Mindful’ of what I am eating as I learnt in Keto. And, will do IF as well time to time. Appreciate your feedback and will be connected. :slight_smile:

(Scott) #22

So we can put away our shovels, pitch forks and torches now?

(smilekapoor) #23

Thanks Luckymisslucy :wink: I will strike the balance.

(smilekapoor) #24

Thanks Karim for feedback. I will remain low carb when compared to what I used to have before starting keto. And, will also avoid alcoholic drinks as much possible.

(Cindy) #25

Or it could just be that person who used to drink an occasional glass of wine or drink very moderately on social occasions and misses it. :wink:

I respect that some people here view carbs as poison so that they’re to be avoided at all costs and for the rest of their lives. That doesn’t, however, apply to everyone.

@smilekapoor, I do think that you should view keto as a normal, healthy lifestyle. But I also think that, if for YOU, that means adding in the occasional carb indulgence, or increasing your daily carbs by some amount, and you can maintain your weight/health by doing that, then go for it.

Sometimes, the “all or nothing” mentality is as damaging to a person as eating carbs…you’re just trading one extreme for another kind of extreme.

(Karim Wassef) #26

There are many substances that we choose not to ever ingest - it’s not extreme to understand the damage something does to your health.

Dogs love chocolate and anti-freeze. Is it extreme to say that they should never indulge? Maybe?

Some poisons work fast and some are slow. Some bodies are more able to fight and sequester poisons than others. All that being true, poisons are still poisons.

I truly believe in individual freedom combined with truthful knowledge. There is nothing wrong with knowingly indulging in chemicals that are addictive and hazardous as an adult as long as you don’t hurt other people…(maybe) but maybe it shouldn’t be called the norm.

:smiley:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #27

But such people have very weird ideas of what constitutes moderate drinking. They often order one glass of wine, or whatever, and don’t even finish it. They very rarely talk about their drinking, except to say such incomprehensible things as, “I’d better stop now, I’m starting to feel a buzz,” and “No more, thanks, I already had a drink.”

In my observation, people who are not addicted to carbohydrate and sugar generally talk the same way. As I said, weird! :grin:

But in my carb burning days, not only did I never fail to finish the doughnut, I never failed to finish all three dozen! :doughnut:

(Sharon) #28

Keto is a way of eating … Not a diet that you go off from when you have lost weight. If you go back to carbs you will just gain the weight back again. It is a choice,

(Cindy) #29

Carbs aren’t poison. We process and use them just fine. The problem is when we eat them in excess.

#30

I’d argue that fructose is poison, it’s at least as dangerous to your liver as alcohol. And since table sugar has fructose, and most products in the US have HFCS, it’s easier just to avoid it altogether, outside of a handful of berries when they’re in season.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #31

If I were ever to decide to stop keto I would try Paleo. No grains but some roots. But I like dairy so Paleo would have it’s own restrictive nature, so keto I stay. :cowboy_hat_face:

(Amy) #32

It is possible for some to return (somewhat) to a “normal” diet, if you started out with a healthy diet before going keto. “Normal” is relative.

I’ve been able to maintain my weight with 40-80 grams/carbs/day, and sometimes up to 120 grams. I still fast 16 hours/day, and return to a state of ketosis every morning. I added in lots of veggies, berries, yogurt, sweet potatoes, occasional bananas. I still avoid grains and sugars, but eat treats occasionally. I started out relatively healthy, so I have more metabolic flexibility than most here. I would say my diet is more paleo now than traditional keto, but I’m still in ketosis, so, technically still ketogenic.

(Karim Wassef) #33

The body actively works to metabolize and sequester the most dangerous chemicals we ingest first.

If you took in alcohol, carbs, protein, and fat… the body will prioritize alcohol first, then the carbs. Excess glucose in the blood will cause brain and organ damage and the body actively sequesters it with insulin. It does this aggressively! Then protein and some insulin is released to allow it to be incorporated where amino acids can be used for building. Finally, the safest and last to be used is fat.

The only carb exception is fiber which the body ferments and turns into fat (short chain) also.

that’s what every healthy human body does to protect us from “user error”.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #34

You don’t go back whole hog, else you wind up back where you started. You don’t have to eat ketogenically, but you have to maintain carbs at a maintenance point.

My problem with carbs at a higher level for maintenance is that it’s a tricky line, especially without a dieter’s focus on weights, measures and counts, between maintenance and triggering cravings.

But, the larger question is why you believe that ketogenic dieting is not a healthy diet.

(Kirk Wolak) #35

Keto should not be considered a DIET, but a WOL (Way of Living).
It IS Natural and Healthy. How else does it return your health to you.
Read the book: Any Way you Can by Dr. Boz
and how she used it to treat her mother with cancer, and a lot more.

I turn out to be a natural carnivore (allergic to dairy and most vegetables, nuts, legumes)… The more I do fasting, and only eat meat, water, etc. The healthier I get. I have lost over 100lbs and feel alive again.

If you offered me $1 MILLION to go back to my old way of eating for the rest of my life, the ONLY Chance I would take it would be a suicide mission to die quickly, and leave the money to my family! Because “suicide” is exactly what the “SAD” approach to eating has become. A long, slow, drawn out form of disease and misery at the hands of well-meaning, but ill-informed doctors, nutritionists, dietitians, et al…

(Jason Fletcher) #36

Mark Sisson has a book on this. Keto Reset diet.

(Karim Wassef) #37

Hmmm… so some people can actually eat terribly and remain in keto most of the time. They’re extreme cross-fit athletes. They burn 6000-8000 calories a day. It’s insane and their life is a mix of extreme aerobic, anaerobic, endurance, HIIT and ice baths and cold showers.

I think if someone wants to eat anything they want, that’s a perfectly acceptable path. They burn glucose faster than their insulin can spike. But it’s a lifestyle choice… I think keto is just easier than that.

:smiley:

#38

You don’t need to be in ketosis to be healthy. But I believe that avoiding grains and sugar is the way to go no matter what. 50-150 g of carbs a day is still considered low carb, and many people manage to lose weight on lchf even if they aren’t keto.

If I hit my ideal waist to height ratio (weight is overrated), I will most likely try to add beans to my diet. And the occasional beetroot soup, as well as a couple bites of cake on special occasions. But I won’t ever again go back to bread and snacking on sweets and potato chips.Too many carbs in one meal will make me want more very soon after, and that is an unpleasant way to feel hunger.

#39

“Normal healthy diet?” :thinking:

(Todd Allen) #40

I think it might be more accurate to say one doesn’t need to be constantly in ketosis to be healthy. But a healthy person should readily go a bit into ketosis merely by not eating for a while or exercising hard. People with hyperinsulinemia from eating SAD are almost never in ketosis resulting in poor health.