How I eliminated cravings altogether


(SVGuss) #1

It works 100% for me, from the very first day of using it. All I have to do is to eat every 2 hours. For, example, I’d fry/stew 5-6 chicken legs with olive oil, put some cheese on top when they are almost ready. So every time I eat one piece plus some veggies. In this way I feel stuffed all day long without eating much in total, and I never develop cravings.
One still can have 16-8 intermittent fasting eating like this. Previously, when I was eating once or twice a day, I always had cravings. Not hungry - but craving for carbs.
Important thing - never miss a meal! Once I tried to fool my body and skip one meal as we went to the seashore. I paid for that by eating much more in the evening, and I couldn’t resist a croissant.
Maybe this will be of help. It should work the very first day you try it, though eating small and frequent is not easy in the beginning. I always though I was an OMAD man… turns out there are other options.


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#2

Nice option.

As long as the food is low insulin stimulating, it is an interesting method.

I’m not sure on the other hormones like leptin, grhelin, etc are impacted physiologically.

But shutting down cravings is primo.


#3

absolutely. other options can easily come into play, what food we eat is key tho obvy.

when one has more cravings it is cause they usually did not eat enough in that 1 or second meal. Full belly with nutrition is key all the time for cravings to stop. Now mind cravings, whole different story in a way cause they are emotionally related, that smell of grandma’s pie or Mom’s famous food she cooked or sights of the family oohhing and ahhing over their fav meal you once enjoyed. Emotional impact can be hard but with a full belly one can then ‘reason with themselves’ more and handle it.

You are right, there are many options to ‘walk this journey’ for those starting their plans and getting healthy. Whatever it takes, whatever a person needs personally to hold plan to better health.

And again the meals you now eat more often, that can change for you again where you won’t require this action…so always listen to the body, do what works for us when we need it and just keep the path open to change as we require.

great post and happy you are doing so well!!!


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #4

There is also a physiological basis to certain cravings. I react to sugar and carbohydrates the way an alcoholic reacts to alcohol, and it turns out that there are similarities in how they affect the brain.

That said, I do find that, while my sugar/carb cravings never go away completely, they are far more manageable on a ketogenic diet eaten to satiety. I may not be able to resist a piece of whatever it is, but I generally find myself able to stop pretty quickly. It helps that most processed foods taste dreadful these days, and even fresh yeast bread from that nearby pizzeria (my downfall, almost invariably) stops being interesting after a few bites. By contrast, I used to be the type who ate a few dozen glazed doughnuts without even thinking about it.


(SVGuss) #5

Well, strangely, I ate quite big meals, and craving always came RIGHT AFTER the one big meal a day, usually in the evening.
So why this many small meals thing works? I guess because protein is in the stomach pretty much all the time and it has a satiating effect. Also, it may be that the small amounts of glucose (glycogen in the muscle meat, sugars in veggies and cheese) are enough to curb those cravings. Say, there is 1 to 5 grams of glucose in one small keto meal. Well AFAIK at any given moment there is about 5 grams of glucose total in human blood. Comparable amount, the body does not have to do gluconeogenesis to get all the glucose - so maybe the brain doesn’t insist on getting sugar by any means.


#6

My life became much easier when I started eating higher protein!


#7

right after a meal is usually a head game for alot of people who know think about ‘dessert’ or something to eat after. Heck after a meal if I am hungry still, I go eat another steak. Key is be full. If you crave after a meal then ya didn’t eat enough to satisfy most times. Thru everyone’s journey we have different tactics we require at different times to make it work for us and not against us. So that is why so many of us do things way different styles on plan cause we are in a different timeline on our journeys.

you need to read up on GNG a bit cause that last line is definitely off…


(Bunny) #8

That’s because there are little tiny chronograph oscillators in the suprachiasmatic nucleus in every cell of your body including adipose cells, kind of neat?

I’ve seen people do this with candy bars and lose massive amounts of body fat, but you want to get a lot vitamins while doing it.


(SVGuss) #9

That may well be, just not in my case. I can be bursting with my one meal a day, and yet thinking of something sweet. RIGHT AFTER the meal. And no, I never had a habit of having a dessert. I think it is some subtle biochemistry going on we don’t really know yet.


#10

it is mind games alot of us have to deal thru and do. time on one’s plan changes this but our thinking and desires sure come into play when we are transitioning to healthy eating. With time many get over ‘the want and thoughts’ of just wanting sweet. Takes time tho as many of us know :slight_smile: and knowing you and changing you!


(Bacon is a many-splendoured thing) #11

That’s because you are a sugar addict, just like so many of us. One way of handling these cravings is to take a page from the various Twelve-Step programs and simply postpone your next dose of sugar until tomorrow. One day at a time.

One thing I have found helpful with the ketogenic way of eating is that it has made the distinction between hunger and sugar/carb cravings very clear. It doesn’t eliminate the cravings, alas, but at least I know what I’m dealing with. Postponing my next sugar binge until tomorrow works pretty well as a strategy.


#12

so agree in that many of us ‘don’t quite get that yet’ and it takes time on plan and ‘big desire from us’ to change. I so hear ya Paul on this!!


#13

Then you may just miss your carbs. It’s like me going crazy for fruits when ignored my veggies for a while on my carbier keto… I wasn’t ready for extreme low-carb yet and my body got upset and wanted more sugary things as usual, it seems such things may happen…
Later I could go lower and my problems disappeared, it seems I can blame carbs nearly for everything… But I needed a long journey to go that low. And I keep changing, people tend to do that.

And yep, being quite full and not being able to eat another bite of our normal, nice food doesn’t necessarily mean much in this case. First, it’s a desire, we can crave things when full in certain circumstances. I can be very hungry while completely full too (not even sweets work then), it’s very annoying and fortunately super rare, those 10-30 minutes are hell…
But some of us still can actually eat (potentially a lot of) sweets when very satiated, quite (not completely) full and can’t eat normal food anymore. Separate dessert stomach, I have that. It’s useful if I (for some weird reason) want to do OMAD in the times when I get satiated quickly and even get quite full too quickly.

We have so many different urges to eat or it’s just me? I doubt it. And sometimes they aren’t in agreement. And we can change a lot and start behaving differently, it’s crazy but interesting.
And our exact woe has huge power. I find the right one and it’s borderline magic.

We should do whatever we can and what works for our possibly very unique case. I experimented a lot. And then I changed. Oh well.


(SVGuss) #14

If I eat every 2 hours, I definitely don’t. Case solved.
That was the point of the thread, rather then discuss cravings forever and how to potentially get rid of them in an imaginable beautiful future. Can do it tomorrow. :slight_smile: Give it a try, and long thoughts on cravings may become unnecessary, who knows. :heart_eyes:


#15

It was solved it in the very beginning (for now, at least, things change sometimes), that’s why I didn’t write earlier… But then came ideas so I thought I say that indeed, sometimes satiation doesn’t solve things. And of course I wrote other things, it’s me.

Forever? :smiley: It’s a super short thread :slight_smile: It’s pretty hard to keep people from commenting if the topic is interesting or we have thoughts, I imagine.


(SVGuss) #16

I just remember well how, when I first discovered keto a few years ago, I could talk about cravings forever. You think it’s gone, an hour later turns out it’s not :slight_smile: You start thinking, well, I’m not fully keto adapted, or I am addicted, so the solution is always postponed into some indefinite future. It’s like vegans telling me - just keep eating high carb no fat and eventually your blood sugars will go down. Some day… and it never comes!
But this frequent eating thing is the only effective way I know that works, from day one.
Of course yoг are welcome to respond, I didn’t intend to be rude. At the end of the day I’m in ketosis - I’m smooth, mellow :slight_smile: