Horizon sugar vs fat - anyone in UK watch?

[Elle79]

So apparently LCHF actually causes diabetes and we need carbs/glucose for both physical & mental health, although HFHC is bad for you. Hmmm.

[Capnbob]

Here is a really good analysis from a great keto doc in Britain, Zoe Harcombe. She calls BS on the wrong conclusions drawn from an interesting twin experiment.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2014/02/horizon-sugar-vs-fat/

The show does show that the carb fueled twin produced more insulin and the fat fueled one produced less but they drew mostly the wrong conclusions from that. Dr Zoe deconstructs it very well.

[Elle79]

Thanks Rob, perfect rebuttal for something that just made me lost for words angry. Really hope it gets more wide spread in the UK, so many people think I’m killing myself with this WOE.

[Capnbob]

This was from 2014 so you are probably seeing a repeat or an iPlayer showing. Some water has flowed under the bridge since then, but for the BBC not too much.

If you watch ‘Trust Me I’m a Doctor’, led by Michael Moseley, it is doing/revealing some better peripheral research on TV that at least questions the old orthodoxy. They recently did a thing about different fats and came out pro Coconut oil and were surprised when it made cholesterol better (shock horror) . They also did a bit on when to eat carbs (morning or evening) with the implicit assumption that carbs are not good for you. Moseley is not keto as @Duncan_K reminded me (more like a Newcastle ‘starvationist’) but he is low carb so there is some progress on the BBC.
Unfortunately, the preceding program on BBC2 is Tom Kerridge who lost 10 stone or something on basically keto/VLC making calorie controlled, high carb recipes for a group of dieters, gleefully noting the fat reductions. Annoying.

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[Elle79]

Yeah it was a repeat but back in 2013/2014 I wouldn’t have watched it cos obviously fat is bad m’kay, I caught a bit of that episode and also heard Dr Moseley on radio 2. It’s definitely starting to get out to the wider UK consciousness (my Dr told me to go keto) but seems to be slow going “crazy faddish”

[Capnbob]

In the US, there are at least some commercial low-carb options for many things (not just sugar-free) but when back in the UK at Christmas, the ‘Free From’ aisles in supermarkets only had gluten free and dairy free, still high carb.

Keep up the fight in dear old Blighty!

[Elle79]

Yeah I thought I’d try trawling through the free from aisle but no luck at all.

[Capnbob]

I went to the cupboard… but the cupboard was bare